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    EZY503 EDI-BHX

    Scheduled departure 12:35
    A scheduled arrival 13:45

    Actual departure 15:58

    Flight radar says actual arrival at 16:41
    Google says 16:49

    Obviously 16:49 would put it over three hours delay. Is there an authoritative source for take off and landing times to use as the basis of a claim? Is the delay counted until the aircraft touches down or is it doors open? In which case both landing times would be fine.

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    Doors open and allowed to leave. Expert flyer has 16:49.

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    They claimed it was due to air traffic control strikes in France… is this outside the airlines control?

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    Doors open, allowed to leave, AND with stairs or ramp having been completed connecting to the aircraft and available to the first passenger to step onto.

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    They claimed it was due to air traffic control strikes in France… is this outside the airlines control?

    Uh…on Edinburgh to Birmingham? Really?

    I was not aware that any French administration has anything to do with flights from Edinburgh to Birmingham.

    Might as well say flights within Egypt are affected by the usual recurring French strikes.

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    I checked the flight history of the plane used. It arrived from Geneva late. If the strikes were planned then why can they state it’s outside their control? Surely they can plan and move equipment around etc. is it even worth trying?

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    @Lady London – need to think outside the box as they used to say. If the aircraft came from France or as above from another country that caused it to suffer ATC restrictions/delays yes, EC/UK261 provides for the airline not to pay compensation even on a UK domestic flight.

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    Not if the strikes were announced in advance which they were. Strikes are only extraordinary circumstance if they are surprise ones and are not over pay&benefits as amended by case law.

    So ATC strikes are not automatically extraordinary.

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    Not if the strikes were announced in advance which they were. Strikes are only extraordinary circumstance if they are surprise ones and are not over pay&benefits as amended by case law.

    So ATC strikes are not automatically extraordinary.

    As I am sure you are aware, Recital 15 of the legislation specifically allows for this and it matters not if the ATC restrictions are because of a strike or any other reason; it is totally irrelevant and it’s outside the airline’s control. Such strikes in both France and the UK are of course announced in advance as the law requires this.

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