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If you have a UK passport and an EU passport, what is needed to be able to use the EU passport for departures that will arrive in the UK?
Presumably you wont be allowed to board the flight if you use a non-UK passport that doesnt have an ETA as the passport for the departure flight to the UK? But then the UK site also says that an ETA isnt needed if you are a resident/national?
A person with UK and EU passports won’t need an ETA or ETIAS. I always show my EU passport at passport control when departing, and my UK one to the person checking on boarding the plane. Also I always add my UK passport to the booking to avoid any difficulties with boarding at either end. Though when ETIAS comes in, I might have to rethink this as I’ll need (presumably) to prove that I don’t actually need one …
*You would hope the airlines are sufficiently accustomed to millions of EU citizens coming and going from the UK to have this in hand!
I am considering getting ETIAS for my UK passport and the ETA for my European one just in case, say if one goes missing!
I haven’t even tried to work out whether the immediate family of an EU citizen, who are entitled to enter an EU country with them, will also be exempt from the ETIAS!
A person with UK and EU passports won’t need an ETA or ETIAS. I always show my EU passport at passport control when departing, and my UK one to the person checking on boarding the plane. Also I always add my UK passport to the booking to avoid any difficulties with boarding at either end. Though when ETIAS comes in, I might have to rethink this as I’ll need (presumably) to prove that I don’t actually need one …
*You would hope the airlines are sufficiently accustomed to millions of EU citizens coming and going from the UK to have this in hand!
What if the scenario was the EU passport was entered in the flight booking, you were using the EU passport to enter and exit the overseas (non-eu/non-uk) country and you were wanting to only use the EU passport when boarding? Basically, what would the correct course of action be if the only place you wanted to get out the UK passport at all was at UK border control?
I don’t know! I’m not sure how the ground crew determine whether you’re just going for a holiday or trying to enter illegally. I just assume that showing the UK passport is going to result in the least number of questions being asked.
I am considering getting ETIAS for my UK passport and the ETA for my European one just in case, say if one goes missing!
Is the latter possible, to return (presumably to your home/residence) in/to the UK on?
On a seperate note, we have friends visiting from the continent soon, and apparently the price for an ETA has already increased once! I am sure it hasn’t been in place that long…
If you have a UK passport and an EU passport, what is needed to be able to use the EU passport for departures that will arrive in the UK?
Presumably you wont be allowed to board the flight if you use a non-UK passport that doesnt have an ETA as the passport for the departure flight to the UK? But then the UK site also says that an ETA isnt needed if you are a resident/national?
If you are a UK national you will need to prove it to the transport provider using a British passport.
If you are a UK resident who doesn’t have a British or Irish passport you will have a UK visa. The vast majority of UK visas are now electronic and you may need a “share code” to show the airline to verify the visa (see the other recent thread on this topic). If you still have a valid visa sticker in your passport that should be acceptable too.
Otherwise you will need an ETA.
I always add my UK passport to the booking to avoid any difficulties with boarding at either end. Though when ETIAS comes in, I might have to rethink this as I’ll need (presumably) to prove that I don’t actually need one
You will have to change the API in the booking for each flight, otherwise you won’t be able to check in. (I guess this is one of the things ICAO/IATA need to make easier if they really want to get rid of “check in”.)
On a recent trip, I noticed that the Cathay website even allows you to enter a different passport for the API on each individual flight on a connecting itinerary.
I haven’t even tried to work out whether the immediate family of an EU citizen, who are entitled to enter an EU country with them, will also be exempt from the ETIAS!
They are only entitled to enter EU countries other than the one where the citizen holds citizenship. So if they are going to another EU country, then in theory yes, in practice probably no as airlines won’t allow it. They should be advised to get an EEA family permit beforehand which is free and usually not too onerous.
What if the scenario was the EU passport was entered in the flight booking, you were using the EU passport to enter and exit the overseas (non-eu/non-uk) country and you were wanting to only use the EU passport when boarding? Basically, what would the correct course of action be if the only place you wanted to get out the UK passport at all was at UK border control?
Well you would need to get an ETA in the EU passport (unless it is Irish). There isn’t any other course of action you can take.
Currently, the UK itself does not enforce ETAs but leaves it up to the airlines. When the UK starts enforcing them, if you have an ETA-less and visa-less EU passport in the API of a flight to the UK, the UK system will just refuse to issue an OK to board directive and the airline won’t be able to give you a boarding pass.
Exiting the third country should be done with the passport used to enter it. Most third countries’ immigration officials don’t care whether you are allowed to enter your destination.
If there is a particular reason you don’t want a third country to know you have a British passport, you should probably not travel directly between the UK and that country. Use separate tickets and self-connect somewhere safer.
Is the latter possible, to return (presumably to your home/residence) in/to the UK on?
On a seperate note, we have friends visiting from the continent soon, and apparently the price for an ETA has already increased once! I am sure it hasn’t been in place that long…
Yes, British citizens can get ETAs in foreign passports. Many other countries don’t allow it for their citizens (even though it usually works if you lie) but it seems to be fine for the UK
“They are only entitled to enter EU countries other than the one where the citizen holds citizenship. So if they are going to another EU country, then in theory yes, in practice probably no as airlines won’t allow it. They should be advised to get an EEA family permit beforehand which is free and usually not too onerous.” I never understand this – surely you’re most likely to want to take your family into the country you have nationality of?
surely you’re most likely to want to take your family into the country you have nationality of?
Yes but that’s nothing to do with the EU. The EU doesn’t give you the right to bring your foreign family to your own country.
It does give you the right to move to another EEA country with your non-EEA family, so it could possibly be argued that your non-EEA family members should not need an ETIAS to do that.
surely you’re most likely to want to take your family into the country you have nationality of?
Yes but that’s nothing to do with the EU. The EU doesn’t give you the right to bring your foreign family to your own country.
It does give you the right to move to another EEA country with your non-EEA family, so it could possibly be argued that your non-EEA family members should not need an ETIAS to do that.
Your non EEA family may NEED a visa to enter the EU. Then they can move freely inside of it (from France to Spain for instance). Yet that doesn’t mean they gain the rights of the EEA spouse, they are strictly speaking, just tourists.
As I understand it, immediate family are entitled to accompany an EU citizen into an EU country without a visa/ETIAS. Just not into the country where the EU citizen has nationality, apparently, they need a family permit for that? I guess this is because you’re not exercising freedom of movement by entering your home country?
Plenty of EU nationals brought non-EU spouses into the UK while freedom of movement was in place, I don’t recall any mention of them needing visas or other types of authorisation.
If you are a UK national you will need to prove it to the transport provider using a British passport.
If you are a UK resident who doesn’t have a British or Irish passport you will have a UK visa. The vast majority of UK visas are now electronic and you may need a “share code” to show the airline to verify the visa (see the other recent thread on this topic). If you still have a valid visa sticker in your passport that should be acceptable too.
Otherwise you will need an ETA.
not entirely correct, if you’re a EU citizen with settled status you won’t have a UK passport and you won’t have a visa, yet you’ll still be exempt from ETA
Settled status is a type of visa, an eVisa in the HMG parlance.
Settled status is a type of visa, an eVisa in the HMG parlance.
it’s not usually called a visa, (“Settled Status: If you have settled status, it means you have the right to live, work, and study in the UK permanently, without needing a visa.”) but we’re arguing semantics
in any event it’s not recorded on your passport so your comment is pretty irrelevant in the context of this discussion
My comment is a direct reply to your assertion wtf
What is usually called is irrelevant.
And yes, it’s not recorded on your passport because it’s an eVisa/electronic, exactly like the person you quoted said (“The vast majority of UK visas are now electronic and you may need a “share code””)
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