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    There’s always more to these stories …

    Yes, one of them said she was going to work remotely while in the USA. That’s a red flag straight away when you’re on an ESTA and they examined her email and saw proof by all accounts. So their ESTA status is now recinded and if they ever wanted to go back they’d need full visas.

    355 posts

    There’s always more to these stories …

    Yes, one of them said she was going to work remotely while in the USA. That’s a red flag straight away when you’re on an ESTA and they examined her email and saw proof by all accounts. So their ESTA status is now recinded and if they ever wanted to go back they’d need full visas.

    Was this one of the two German’s mentioned? I can’t find any outlets reporting this bit about intention to work, do you have a source?

    To the comments above about having accommodation booked for duration of trip, surely there are loads of scenarios where folk (at least up to now) don’t do that – round the world travellers/backpackers, road-trippers, hikers, cycle tourers, etc. Are all these types of visits now off the menu unless you make a detailed plan for every day of your trip?

    735 posts

    Th UK Home Office site on travel to the USA says that travellers should check eligibility to enter the country on the US government website site. 30 seconds of Google finds this:

    (4) Public charge
    (A) In general

    Any alien who, in the opinion of the consular officer at the time of application for a visa, or in the opinion of the Attorney General at the time of application for admission or adjustment of status, is likely at any time to become a public charge is inadmissible.
    (B) Factors to be taken into account

    (i) In determining whether an alien is inadmissible under this paragraph, the consular officer or the Attorney General shall at a minimum consider the alien’s-

    (I) age;

    (II) health;

    (III) family status;

    (IV) assets, resources, and financial status; and

    (V) education and skills.

    Also this:

    (5) Labor certification and qualifications for certain immigrants
    (A) Labor certification
    (i) In general

    Any alien who seeks to enter the United States for the purpose of performing skilled or unskilled labor is inadmissible, unless…

    It’s naive to waltz up to a country and expect to be let in, just, because…

    It’s clear. If you look like you’ll be working, you won’t get in. If you can’t demonstrate you can afford the trip, you won’t get in.

    If you didn’t have a hotel booked but we’re able to show a savings account with £20,000 in it, I doubt you’d have a problem.

    11,254 posts

    @Scott, they said it themselves!

    https://onemileatatime.com/news/backpacking-german-teenagers-denied-entry-us-jailed-deported/

    The pitfalls of US immigration are well-known (or should be). There was a British mother making sad face and complaining bitterly that her son, who had lived in California for some years, had been detained on trying to re-enter the country. Further into the interview she let slip that he had acquired a drug conviction while living there and that there was also an outstanding court summons for him!

    The work thing doesn’t just apply to the US. If you’re found working without a (difficult to come by) permit in the Cayman Islands (so a British territory), you’ll be deported and very likely banned from returning. You can’t even apply for jobs while you’re on the island as a non-resident, this is illegal and will also get you deported.

    584 posts

    I thought it was rule #1 – be able to show that you had:
    a. somewhere to stay when you arrived, even if just for one night, and
    b. be able to demonstrate you have enough resources (cash, credit, etc) for your whole stay

    Let’s not forget that US CBP can request access to your phone/devices, and that refusal will likely get you denied entry and possibly your devices seized. Don’t mess with or lie to the CBP!!

    2,094 posts

    I thought it was rule #1 – be able to show that you had:
    a. somewhere to stay when you arrived, even if just for one night, and
    b. be able to demonstrate you have enough resources (cash, credit, etc) for your whole stay

    That’s the minimum. I got questioned once coming back to the mainland from Friday Harbour and the jist was how can you afford to travel etc. I’ve not even left the continental USA but unbeknownst to be the ferry had come from BC, Canada so everyone was mixed together on landing.

    Rule #1 is don’t mess with the CBP, they’re right, you’re not.

    11,254 posts

    Never argue with anyone who can screw up your travel plans.

    We probably have it relatively easy coming from the U.K. Entering the US at FLL from Bahamas all luggage was re-screened and we got quite the grilling about what we might be bringing with us!

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