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Something I still don’t understand and which is my biggest fear is that I’ll be losing all the tier points I have collected already. So my renewal is in November and I was told that my counting period will now be April 2024 to March 2025 (instead of November 2023 to October 2024). So all the tier points I had between November 2023 and end of March 2024 will just not be counted towards my new year, meaning I lose 750 tier points and have to start from scratch again by April 2024. I don’t think BA have taken any of that into consideration!
You’ve not understood the new system.
Your current collection year ending on 8th November 2024 runs as normal.
But any TPs earned from 1st April 24 will also count to the new 1st Apr 2024 – 31st March 2025 collection year
Yes, but the point is (I also have a Nov 8th year end) whereas in the past if you had accrued enough points to retain silver already then it would carry over to Dec 31st 2025. Under this new system it would only carry over to April 2025. I couldn’t care less about the counting of tier points from April 1st as I have already accrued enough to retain silver upon renewal on Nov 8th 2024. On the face of it I appear to have lost 8 months of silver status compared to the previous method.
So, I’m in an interesting position. TP collection year ends 8th June 2024. Currently bronze, building status back post-Covid, about to earn another 200 points in early March, taking me to 570. So, I’ll hit 600 at some point in April or May 2024, and will quite likely generate another 200-400 TPs before the “old” June reset date as I’ve got a couple of long-haul trips planned, which presumably will then carry over into the new April 2024 – March 2025 year.
But… because I’ll “gain status during the transition period” I’ll be silver not until March 2025, but March 2026, effectively a whole extra year. For once, one of these changes has actually been fortuitous for me! So, once qualified, if I can’t get to gold – which is unlikely for me by March 31st 2025 – what’s the point in collecting any TPs at all over the next year if I’ve got silver status until spring 2026? I might as well back-end as much of my planned travel as possible into the post March 2025 period. Is that right?
This comment is from @Rhys on what is currently page 16 of the comments section:
“The assumptions in this article are incorrect. I’ve been on the phone to BA all morning and have *finally* got, I think, the confirmed way it will work.
It was poorly communicated, the media weren’t briefed (so we couldn’t ask the BA loyalty team anything in advance, which would have let us flag some of the more confusing elements) etc.
Updated article to follow!”
Yet another basic “timing of flights” question, as my Tier Points have just reset on 8th of Jan 2024, with the transition period ending 22 of Feb’24 (down to 0 TP).
My TP collection year ends 8 January 2025, and player 2’s is June 2025, and I want to maximise the amount of time with status. Should we try to hit Silver:
a) After Feb’24 but before April 2024?
b) AFTER April 2024?
c) It doesn’t matter as long as it’s before January (me) /June (player 2) 2025For (a), (b) & (c), is my understanding correct that I’ll have status until April 2026?
I strongly suggest people read the new article just published. it makes things clearer
I have read all the articles, the BA examples and dozens of comments. I am still totally confused about my particular circumstance. My collection year ends in June. I am currently Bronze with enough tier points to hit Silver but I only have 3 qualifying flights. I plan to rectify this with a flight at the end of March which means I will become Silver at that point. As I understand it, under this new system my Silver status will then expire in July 2025. All good and no change from how things work now. However…in the example for my June end of year, BA says that “Any Tier status you receive during the transition period will expire on 30 April 2026”. So am I correct in thinking that I can move that qualifying flight to a few days later in April (the start of the transition period) and then my Silver status would be extended by another 9 months?
As a rather senior person, sorry, this is all rather confusing. Could any kind soul help me out, and as I don’t understand the soft landing stuff.
I thought I would have 3.years of status, gold, silver and bronze but now I dont have a clue. I need large scotch, or two.
In short:
My collection ends 8 March and my card expiry is end of April.
I will become gold, for the first time, at the end of Feb.
Many thank everybody!
My Gold is due to end in September and now Silver to March so I lose six months. I fly to Sydney First Class at least twice a year. I was about to book Sydney First Class London, Dublin, Dubai, Singapore Sydney for November which would neatly get me to Gold. I found a bargain (for BA) cash fare for £9k. However that only gets me Gold to March 2025 instead of November 2025.
I have never paid more than £6k with the Lufthansa group First Class to Sydney so where I could justify the BA price on their old year ends on the new nones I can’t.
So sorry BA this time you lose out. I get to fly a superior product ( First Class terminal, often driven to and from the plane while in transit, Singapore Suites on the last leg and the promise of an re design to their First Class product soon).
My last two flights to Sydney via the Turkish Miles programme got me Gold status for two years plus three Hold status membership to give away to family and friends.
Now you’re the kind of customer I’m really surprised BA wants to alienate! Your F to Sydney probably equates to our total travel spend in a year.
Supermac, won’t you be earning any tier points between April 2024 and the end of your tier point year (presumably 8th of August)?
These, added to what you would earn for your Sydney trip would count towards your parallel April 24-March 25 year and from the amount of travelling you report should be enough to maintain good until March 26.
Have BA ever published “soft landing” as a benefit of status? I’ve never seen a mention of it on the website. Assuming it is not an advertised benefit, reducing or removing it seems reasonable (albeit a shock to those that might have assumed it would last for three years and booked or strategically timed a gold run on the basis of that).
They could make soft landing from gold to silver less soft i.e. if you have landed to silver from gold and then don’t achieve 300 TPs before first October there’s a drop from silver to bronze.
Supermac, won’t you be earning any tier points between April 2024 and the end of your tier point year (presumably 8th of August)?
These, added to what you would earn for your Sydney trip would count towards your parallel April 24-March 25 year and from the amount of travelling you report should be enough to maintain good until March 26.
No I don’t rend to travel in those months.
To be fair BA should extend your grace period to the months that you lose, some would only gain what it is now and others 6 months plus.
Will the following Tier Points will be included in the roll over for the 1st April 2024 to July 8th 2024 collection period in anticipation of the new system for BAEC system (account year end is 8th July).
Transaction date 23rd March
Posted date 3rd April
Manual request for AA 60 points for an MIA-MCO segment (separate booking)Just trying to work out how many Tier Points I will have in total for start of new collection year on 9th July.
No.
What matters is the flight date not the posting date.
Is that 60 a typo as the TP calculator shows MIA-MCO as a max of 40 TPs.
No.
What matters is the flight date not the posting date.
Is that 60 a typo as the TP calculator shows MIA-MCO as a max of 40 TPs.
No it isn’t a typo it does show 60 TP’s which I thought odd. I expected it to be the flight date but just wanted to make sure – thanks for the answer.
My tier point year ended 8 May. I flew a return at 20 points each way 29 March outbound and 6 April return as a BA holiday, with double tier points awarded 20 April. I expected 20 points from the flight carried forward plus either another 20 or if I was lucky 40, whereas all I have got is the 20 points from the actual return flight with no double up points carried forward.
My partner has been chasing some missing tier points from flights taken earlier this year, with 3 guideline times previously given and missed. Whilst currently Gold, he needed these missing tier points to get Gold for the “transition year.”
His current collection expiry is 8 Jan 2025.
It is now getting to the point whereby chasing these missing points is getting tiresome and he is thinking of giving up.
1. Am I right in saying that, provided he still achieves 1,500 tier points between 1 April 2025 and 28 Feb 2026, this does not matter (save for the loss of lifetime tier points) and he would stay Gold throughout,
2. and that if he is <1,500 on 28 Feb 2026 but then achieves the additional points during the month of March, he will drop to Silver on 1 March 2026 but then return to Gold if he gets the remaining amount before 31 March 2026?His current collection expiry is 8 Jan 2025.
It is now getting to the point whereby chasing these missing points is getting tiresome and he is thinking of giving up.
1. Am I right in saying that, provided he still achieves 1,500 tier points between 1 April 2025 and 28 Feb 2026, this does not matter (save for the loss of lifetime tier points) and he would stay Gold throughout,
2. and that if he is <1,500 on 28 Feb 2026 but then achieves the additional points during the month of March, he will drop to Silver on 1 March 2026 but then return to Gold if he gets the remaining amount before 31 March 2026?I think your dates are askew. Any TP earned between 1 April 2024 and 8 Jan 2025 will be added again in Jan 2025 together with any TP earned between 9 Jan 2025 and 31 Mar 2025 – the shortened TP year.
So he either earnes 1500TP in his current year to retain Gold for the shortened TP year to 31Mar2025 after which he drops to silver until 31Mar2026 or he earns 1500TP between 1Apr2024 and 8Jan2025 which will be counted again for his shortened year to 31Mar2025 meaning he is gold until 31Mar2026 or he earns a total of 1500TP between 1Apr2024 and 31Mar2025 and will then still remain gold until 31Mar2026.
1. Am I right in saying that, provided he still achieves 1,500 tier points between 1 April 2025 and 28 Feb 2026, this does not matter (save for the loss of lifetime tier points) and he would stay Gold throughout,
2. and that if he is <1,500 on 28 Feb 2026 but then achieves the additional points during the month of March, he will drop to Silver on 1 March 2026 but then return to Gold if he gets the remaining amount before 31 March 2026?An unusual perspective, and as AJA says the years are out, but I concur with the concept. His current year is Jan – Jan, but his card expires 28 Feb 2025 so he’s good until then.
The crossover period is 1 Apr 2024 – 31 Mar 2025, so if he reaches 1500 before 28 Feb 2025 he will continue through until Apr 2026 without a break, otherwise down to Silver as you say and back to Gold if/when he next reaches 1500.
Feb 2026 does not come in to the picture.
I think your dates are askew. Any TP earned between 1 April 2024 and 8 Jan 2025 will be added again in Jan 2025 together with any TP earned between 9 Jan 2025 and 31 Mar 2025 – the shortened TP year.
So he either earnes 1500TP in his current year to retain Gold for the shortened TP year to 31Mar2025 after which he drops to silver until 31Mar2026 or he earns 1500TP between 1Apr2024 and 8Jan2025 which will be counted again for his shortened year to 31Mar2025 meaning he is gold until 31Mar2026 or he earns a total of 1500TP between 1Apr2024 and 31Mar2025 and will then still remain gold until 31Mar2026.
Thanks for reply. May be being dense but cannot see where the dates are off. He is currently Gold, based upon TPs earned between Jan 2024 and the present date. His account says this status expires on 28 Feb 2026.
However, he should have earned more than 1,500 alone since 1 April, but will not, on account of an error made by BA.
An unusual perspective, and as AJA says the years are out, but I concur with the concept. His current year is Jan – Jan, but his card expires 28 Feb 2025 so he’s good until then.
The crossover period is 1 Apr 2024 – 31 Mar 2025, so if he reaches 1500 before 28 Feb 2025 he will continue through until Apr 2026 without a break, otherwise down to Silver as you say and back to Gold if/when he next reaches 1500.
Feb 2026 does not come in to the picture.
As per the App, the current Gold card expires on 28 February 2026, which is what I would expect based upon the old policy of it lasting for the remainder of the current collection year, plus a further year and ~7 weeks.
My tier point year ended 8 May. I flew a return at 20 points each way 29 March outbound and 6 April return as a BA holiday, with double tier points awarded 20 April. I expected 20 points from the flight carried forward plus either another 20 or if I was lucky 40, whereas all I have got is the 20 points from the actual return flight with no double up points carried forward.
Did you ever chase this up, @Tracey?
An unusual perspective, and as AJA says the years are out, but I concur with the concept. His current year is Jan – Jan, but his card expires 28 Feb 2025 so he’s good until then.
The crossover period is 1 Apr 2024 – 31 Mar 2025, so if he reaches 1500 before 28 Feb 2025 he will continue through until Apr 2026 without a break, otherwise down to Silver as you say and back to Gold if/when he next reaches 1500.
Feb 2026 does not come in to the picture.
I posted a reply earlier but seems to have vanished. Sorry therefore if anyone sees it twice. Firstly, thanks for the replies both.
I may be missing something but cannot see where I have got the dates off. A year end of 8 January 2025 would mean the card expiry date of 28 February 2026, which is shown correctly in the App.
To have an expiry date of Feb 2026 he would have needed to qualify for Gold already this year, which is not what the rest of your initial post suggests. That’s where we’re getting confused 😀
To have an expiry date of Feb 2026 he would have needed to qualify for Gold already this year, which is not what the rest of your initial post suggests. That’s where we’re getting confused 😀
Yes, he is already gold, I did mention this in my first paragraph. 🙂
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