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    I was wondering if someone might be able to answer the following question?

    I have an AMEX companion voucher and was wondering if the following journey would be possible? Could I fly from Tokyo (HND) to London (LHR) on an open jaw ticket. Then fly from LHR to Johannesburg (JNB) also on an open jaw ticket, using the same companion voucher?

    I understand the requirements of the open jaw i.e. the distance between the original landing airport and the departure airport must be shorter. As I would be landing into LHR and then departing from the same airport, would this qualify?

    Any advice would be gratefully received.

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    It also has to be shorted between Tokyo and Cape Town than between the two flights this would be out by some way.

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    This wouldn’t be an open jaw booking as you don’t appear to be returning to LHR from 2 different airports

    This basically counts as a one way HND-LHR-CPT ticket (likly with a longish gap between the two flights?)

    But you’re going to be in the difficult situation of trying to book on 2 very popular routes so you’d need to be flexible

    If you tell us your full plans for using your 2-4-1 we’d be able to be more specific

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    BA Flyer IHG Stayer, thank you for your reply. I appreciate the difficulty with the availability on the HND return leg and have actually been looking at the PVG – LHR, which has much more availability in business.

    Currently I’m now looking at travelling club from PVG – LHR around the 25th Jan 2026 (I have flexibility), which has availability. The next flight would be from LHR to JNB around 13 April 2026 (these flights have yet to be released).

    I know my question is a bit unusual!

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    As mentioned, this is not an open jaw route. You could fly LHR-HND, and return PVG-LHR with the 241, or MAD-NRT (on IN) then HND-LHR inbound (on BA). You can’t mix it up a huge amount, e.g. by using QR, because you’re limited by the terms of the 241.

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    *IB! Autocorrect and bright sunlight not a good combo 😂

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    Thanks NorthernLass, but I don’t need to do a return from either NHD or PVG to LHR. I wanted to know if I could fly one way PVG – LHR, then at a later date fly one way to LHR to JNB. I had hoped both of these flights could be considered as open jaw flights.

    From my reading of what BA Flyer IHG Stayer says, an open jaw ticket can only depart and arrive from the same airport?

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    I was just providing an illustration of itineraries which would comply with the OJ rules. So no, you don’t need to depart and arrive at the same airport.

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    @glensunited – there are various types of open jaw journeys. Origin or destination single open jaws or double open jaw. Your proposed journey qualifies as none of those.

    It’s a OW journey that needs to meet other fare/ticketing rules to be used with your CV.

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    Thank-you all for your input. I’m still somewhat confused, but really appreciate your assistance.

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    @glensunited – a single open jaw could be LON-TYO//HKG-LON or LON-TYO//TYO-PAR. A double open jaw could be LON-DXB//DOH-MAN. There’s a directional rule as well, so all these trips look quite like a return.

    The principal rule is that the ‘surface’ sector cannot be greater than either of the flights.

    The problem with your proposed PVG-LHR//LHR-JNB is that the surface sector is too great but also it’s in one direction. If that trip meets the mileage rules, then it’s not only fine but it’s only one way, so you could add that same trip or something similar in reverse for the return. Otherwise it is two one ways which has never been allowed with the CV, fine just with Avios.

    If still confused, is there a specific question!?

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    glensunited, I believe you want to fly from A to B to C with a delay between AB and BC. Open jaw would be ‘jaw’ A to B, an alternative means of ‘open’ travel B to C, and then the return ‘jaw’ C to A.
    You, I believe, simply want a delay between segments of the one way flight?
    May be wrong but theoretically not impossible? You would be booking a one-way redemption with a time break between segments, and happen to be using a voucher to reduce Avios cost. If so, you could theoretically add a ‘return jaw’ from another airport back to (Far East), depending on mileages between airports, to reduce cost of that flight also, if you wish to end up back in the far east at some point in the future and maximise savings…

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    Thanks JDB and Not Long Now for providing some clarity. I was hoping to use the CV from PVG to Lon in Jan 2026 as I would be in Asia. In May 2026 I’ll be in south Africa and again was hoping to use the second segment of the CV to fly from JNB to Lon. Unfortunately this doesn’t seem possible, but I really do appreciate your input 🙂

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