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We have had a LOT of emails, article comments and forum posts in recent weeks from readers who are trying to juggle two frequent flyer accounts on the same booking.

It’s not easy, and to add to the complexity there are two totally opposite reasons why you may want to do it.

We’d like your input if you have been in this situation recently.

using two frequent flyer numbers with the same booking

Here are the two scenarios you could be in:

Scenario 1

You want to earn Avios in British Airways Executive Club whilst using another oneworld frequent flyer programme where you have status for lounge access, free seat selection etc.

Most likely to apply to: people who got Royal Jordanian elite status via the ongoing hotel status match and want free seat selection etc whilst still earning Avios.

Your problem: you need to have your non-BA frequent flyer number in your booking to get free seat selection, but need to change it over at some point to your BA number in order to earn Avios – whilst still trying to get lounge access, fast track security, use of business class check-in desks etc from your non-BA status card.

Scenario 2

You want to earn status tier points in another oneworld frequent flyer programme whilst using your existing British Airways Executive Club elite card for lounge access, free seat selection etc.

Most likely to apply to: current BA status holders who cannot retain their status from 1st April in British Airways Club and are moving to another oneworld frequent flyer scheme where it is easier to earn status (probably Iberia, Royal Jordanian, Malaysia)

Your problem: you need to have your BA frequent flyer number in your booking to get free seat selection via your current status but need to change it over to your non-BA number to earn status credit with your replacement programme – whilst still trying to get lounge access, fast track security, use of business class check-in desks etc on the back of your BA status.

using two frequent flyer numbers with the same booking

In theory this shouldn’t be a problem, but it is

When Amadeus (the back-end ticketing system used by most airlines) was designed, they DID think that this could be an issue.

Your BA flight ticket data contains two fields, which by default are filled with the same number which you added when booking or via Manage My Booking:

  • FQTV: the frequent flyer number you want to use to earn miles
  • FQTS: the frequent flyer number you want to use for claiming status benefits

The problem is that your chance of finding a check-in or call centre agent who knows about FQTV and FQTS, yet alone knows how to amend your data correctly, is low.

I think that Singapore Airlines is the only carrier which allows you to enter two frequent flyer numbers for bookings.

How have you got around this?

Whilst Scenario 2 will be the most common after 1st April, as many readers start trying to earn status in a different oneworld frequent flyer programme, there are currently a lot of readers in Scenario 1 thanks to the Royal Jordanian status match.

If you’re in Scenario 1:

For people in Scenario 1, I have been saying that – at least for short haul flights – you should forget about earning Avios. Put your Royal Jordanian number in your BA booking from the start and keep it there. It will save you a lot of trouble trying to swap numbers over, and the relatively small number of Avios you will forfeit isn’t worth worrying about. You will be earning Royal Jordanian miles instead which can be redeemed on BA.

using two frequent flyer numbers with the same booking

Of course, if you are on a long haul flight then you might want your Avios. At what point do you swap your frequent flyer number for the BA one? After check in? Whilst in the lounge? Could you use fast track security or priority boarding by showing your Royal Jordanian card on your phone whilst having the BA number on your boarding pass?

Let us know in the comments.

If you’re in Scenario 2:

This is a bit trickier. You should be able to get into a BA lounge by showing your BA Gold or Silver membership card on your phone, even if your ‘no status’ Iberia / Royal Jordanian / Malaysia etc number is in your booking.

Can you get away with this at fast track security though? Or when trying to get priority boarding? Do you keep your BA number in your account until the last minute and call BA to swap it from the lounge?

Again, let us know in the comments.

How to change the frequent flyer number in your booking

This is as good a place as any to cover this. Most airlines, including BA, disable the Amadeus functionality which allows you to change your frequent flyer number via Manage My Booking. One that doesn’t is Royal Air Maroc.

You can go on the Royal Air Maroc website and pull up a BA flight booking using the 6-character booking reference. One of the options allows you to change the frequent flyer number.

Thank you for your contributions

We look forward to hearing about your experiences of swapping frequent flyer numbers in the comments. We will run a fresh article next week summarising your feedback.

Comments (136)

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  • Dan says:

    I’m in scenario one. I got a RJ match (to my expiring Hilton Diamond status). I’ve found I can make one change easily using the RJ website, but the second change back doesn’t work. It does however on Royal Air Maroc – it doesn’t always look like the change is saved but going back into the BA booking shows that it does.

  • HM says:

    Relatedly, I’ve experienced unintentional FQTV changes lately with QR:

    I typically book QR flights with my QRPC account for easy form-filling, MMB, etc.

    Although I always change the FQTV from QRPC (no status) to BAEC (status) immediately after booking, it often switches back at check-in, unprompted. I had this a couple of weeks ago at MXP check-in – fortunately, I noticed this immediately, and my BPs were reprinted then and there at the desk.

    However, the first time this happened, I failed to notice in time, and then had the delightful 3-month task of claiming the TPs / Avios retrospectively.

    This also caused issues for a family member recently at SYD trying to long-check bags to LHR on separate QR and BA tickets.

    Slightly off-topic, but hopefully a useful FYI!

  • Mitch says:

    BA’s social team can do it if you provide them with:

    Before we transfer you to an agent, we need to know:
    – Your full name
    – 6 character booking reference
    – Date of travel

    We also need you to confirm 3 of the following in your message:
    – Email address
    – First line of billing address and postcode
    – Last 4 digits of the payment card used for booking
    – Name one other passenger
    – Passport number (if in the booking)
    – Passport expiry date (if in the booking)

    Once you reply, we’ll connect you with an agent who can assist. Please note that the team are very busy and we’ll reply as soon as possible.

    Or you can reply with a number to select an option listed below:

    Before we transfer you to an agent, we need to know:
    – Your full name
    – 6 character booking reference
    – Date of travel

    We also need you to confirm 3 of the following in your message:
    – Email address
    – First line of billing address and postcode
    – Last 4 digits of the payment card used for booking
    – Name one other passenger
    – Passport number (if in the booking)
    – Passport expiry date (if in the booking)

    Once you reply, we’ll connect you with an agent who can assist. Please note that the team are very busy and we’ll reply as soon as possible.

    Or you can reply with a number to select an option listed below:

    1. The request
    2. Full name
    3. Booking reference
    4. Travel date and then 3 of:
    • Email address
    • Billing address first line and postcode
    • Last 4 digits of payment card
    • Passport number
    • Passport expiration

    It’s a faff to type it all out but after you’ve done it once you can copy paste most of it for next time. Once sent, just relax until you get the confirmation message back. In my experience it’s done in under an hour.

  • Mark says:

    I’ve double dipped BA/Finnair a couple of times on Finnair flights but not really by design. Any amendment to the booking seems to revert the booking to be tagged to the Finnair account and I’ve changed that when checking in back to my BA number then ended up with credit on both accounts although not necessarily on both legs on the trip.

  • Andrew says:

    The easiest place to change FF numbers I found was Air Maroc. It was the only place I could find to do it myself without asking BA or RJ directly

    I only have Avios bought bookings so this is not a problem with switching to earn

  • Jake says:

    Used the Royal air Maroc website to alter the frequent flyer number on a BA avios booking.

    The website said it hadn’t worked but on phoning BA later they were able to confirm it had indeed been processed.

    Seems to be an issue with the RAM website.

    I was able to get the Bronze benefit as entitled on the booking.

  • Ian Booth says:

    I am BARC Gold. I booked BA LHR-ATL W cash on the app, UUA to J on the phone. Departure beginning of February.
    Used MMB whilst logged in to allocate seats.
    Used RJ website to delete FF info from booking – this was a bit of a pain.
    Used MMB whilst NOT logged in to add QR FF details.
    Flashed Gold card in the app to use F check in T3. Used the same to access the Cathy First Lounge. Cathy agent made a not of my number in the computer but this did not affect the BP
    Avios and QPoints credited within 48 hours – never had this with BA, I always have to call and chase them when I UUA.
    I’m a recently retired journalist, travel and achieved GGL through personal travel not business. Now moving to QR

    • Rahul says:

      Does this only work for direct flights? Or could you do this before each flight in a trip?

      I have BA Gold and fly UK-West Coast US often
      Say, I flew LHR-JFK-LAX in Y, could I delete my FF info at the First Lounge in LHR and keep my seat selection for both flights? Or would I need to switch it back to BA, then again delete the FF info prior to the second flight?

  • Throwawayname says:

    The scenarios seem identical to me. I was doing this as part of my SAS challenge, using my AZ status. TLDR: accessing lounges was fine almost always, making use of the additional luggage benefit was a royal pain in the arse.

    – One airline, namely Air Europa, was able to use the two fields after a 10-minute chat at their ticketing desk in MAD.
    – One airline, SK, told me at check in that there was no point in bothering to add my AZ number as I wasn’t going to miss out on any benefits- they were correct, as they don’t use a lounge at BHX and my fare already included luggage.
    – One airline, VS, denied me lounge access at an outstation (BOM) but let me in at their hub (LHR).
    – Two airlines, VN and GA, proactively went out of their way to provide me with benefits (fast track, priority bag tags) when I mentioned my status at check in (asking whether I could use the lounge).
    – Three airlines (AF, KL, RO) made my life difficult after having sold me tickets without luggage allowance. In all three cases I had to switch my frequent flyer number – this worked fine with RO, was a bit annoying with KLM and turned out to be highly problematic with AF who denied me boarding twice. In the first case, I had to switch numbers again at the gate and frantically call them to switch it back once I was onboard. In the second case, the gate agent was able to add a booking remark and let me through. This is the really concerning bit, as I just needed to use the benefit with four airlines, out of which only UX were able to handle things properly.
    – One airline, KE, only let me into the lounge after a protracted argument. It was the worst lounge of the trip, too (GMP domestic).
    – 10 airlines (KL, RO, UX, AF, VN, CI, MF, MU, GA, DL, KQ) were happy for me to use my status to get into lounges by showing a screenshot of it while having the SK number on the boarding pass. This included all contract lounges (e.g. when flying KQ from CAN) and those operated by alliance partners (e.g. AF lounges in BOS flying DL and BKK flying VN).
    – I only had an interest in taking advantage of priority boarding once, and DL were happy to oblige…by inviting me to board with Group 4 (my BP was showing 7 I think).

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