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“Virgin Atlantic to delay Accra launch and its return to Tel Aviv” (The Times)

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The Times had an article yesterday (paywall) on the problems facing both British Airways and Virgin Atlantic as they struggle with unreliable Rolls-Royce engines on their Boeing 787 fleets.

We covered the problems at British Airways earlier this week.

Kuwait and Bahrain flights will be cancelled from April, potentially permanently, whilst American Airlines is taking over BA’s Dallas-Fort Worth service and one of the two daily Miami flights. We have already seen the launch of Kuala Lumpur postponed by six months.

Trent 1000 engine

Virgin Atlantic has been very quiet about the state of its own Boeing 787 fleet.

However, according to The Times, the airline is planning to:

  • delay the launch of flights to Accra in Ghana, due to start on 1st May
  • delay the return to Tel Aviv, which is currently due on 30th March

The implication in The Times is that this will not be enough and that other services will also be chopped.

The 17-strong Boeing 787 fleet at Virgin Atlantic is reportedly one aircraft down, presumably due to parts being used to keep other aircraft flying, and this is expected to increase to two next year.

There is no quick fix to the issue, with Rolls-Royce struggling to obtain spare engine parts from its suppliers.

According to The Times, airlines have been able to cover Boeing 787 routes with other aircraft but it is not sustainable. The extra flying hours means that those aircraft now need to go for maintenance earlier than planned, reducing fleets further.


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Comments (49)

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  • Greenpen says:

    So why is there this shortage of spare parts? If of course, that’s the real problem. I guess turbine parts are what I would term specialist, not easily banged off by any metal bashing factory, so surely there would be a long term supply contingency.

    Or is it that this type of engine is just rubbish?

    • TooPoorToBeHere says:

      It turns out that when you tell the supply chain for some of the most capital-intensive, large, and complex machinery in the world that it’s to shut down for an indefinite period with little government support, and then change your mind and tell it you want as much as it can deliver as fast as possible, that there are consequences.

      Divide the blame between MBAs who don’t respect engineers, and covid hysterics, as best suits your personal opinion.

      I’ve read elsewhere that some aspects of airliner parts supply are now impacted by increased demand for military items as well.

      • Tariq says:

        1000%

        Despite the lack of necessity for it, the global shutdown has had and will have for many years to come, substantial consequences. The effect of rebound emissions on climate change just one example which is very evident in recent times.

      • George says:

        My previous company also still blamed Covid related supply chain delays even though it was a lack of investment that caused their issues.

        Easy excuse really

    • Rhys says:

      Modern jet engines use cutting edge materials in order to run hotter and at high pressures than ever before, so it’s not just a matter of getting your neighbourhood ironmongers to knock something up! That’s great when you understand the material, but no amount of lab testing will replace seeing how these materials cope with real-world usage…which is where we are seeing the isssues.

    • Roy says:

      Is it still the case that turbine blades were wearing out much quicker than anticipated on at least some variants of the Trent 1000? Or has that been resolved?

  • Catalan says:

    BA have already decided that the next batch of 781 deliveries will be engined by GE. A significant departure from their longstanding relationship with Rolls Royce.

    • John says:

      Indeed. And BA have refused to exercise the additional 18 A350-1000 options they have because Rolls are the only engine provider.

  • Lady London says:

    Wasn’t it the Rolls Royce enginw problems that finally finished Norwegian ? That was some years ago. Why are there still problems ?

    • Thaliasilje says:

      Norwegian is not “finished”…

      • Rob says:

        Depends if you mean ‘taken over by its banks, shareholders wiped out, 787 aircraft returned to lessors, airline becomes a tiny regional operator of short haul flights’ as ‘finished’.

        • Thaliasilje says:

          That sounds more like SAS.

          Norwegian is great option and MUCH needed competition in the Nordics plus Europe.

          Finished in transatlantic travel? Yes.

    • @mkcol says:

      New & different problems, which have only come to light during real life use.

  • Lev441 says:

    I did wonder why tel Aviv flights were not offered on the Virgin website last night. Made a few bookings just before the changes to flying club. Assume I’ll be rebooked on to El Al now?

    • AL says:

      Most likely, yes. If this continues on in to the new year, when EasyJet restarts services, VS might use their relationship there to start rebooking on their fleet.

  • jjoohhnn says:

    Maybe this will direct Virgin that they should ditch their 787’s.

  • ADS says:

    when was the last time Virgin announced a new route …
    and it wasn’t delayed?!

  • Opus says:

    I will be surprised if RR gets BA’s business in the near future. BA is rarely this vocal about supplier failures, case in point, Boeing.

    That means more business for Boeing and GE and the 787 in the near future

    • Rhys says:

      BA have already committed to 6 GE-powered 787-10s. There would be no point doing that unless more orders were forthcoming and RR had been ruled out.

  • Ben says:

    What a great opportunity for Virgin to update the cabins while aircraft are grounded

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