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Brunchgate: How many flyers are impacted by BA’s morning and evening meal changes?

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Our articles on the new British Airways long-haul brunch and late evening meal changes this week caused a lot of discussion.

Oliver Ranson of Airline Revenue Economics produced an interesting analysis on the changes for his Substack newsletter and I thought it would benefit from a wider audience.

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We have edited this article slightly from its original format and any errors or typos may be ours. Over to Oliver ….

British Airways brunch and late evening meal changes

As HfP covered this week, British Airways is now offering a brunch service on longhaul flights leaving before 11.29am. The menus look bonkers. As the HfP article showed, you will get:

  • a starter, like smoked salmon, soup or artichoke
  • a breakfast course like waffles or sausage, mushrooms and hash browns
  • chocolate cake, coffee and liqueurs

You can wash your breakfast down with a nice glass of red or white wine if you wish.

As well as the rather strange menu choices, BA has decided that any flight scheduled to leave before 11.29am will get this brunch menu. This choice looks far too late.

To see why, consider Monday’s BA255 flight to Bridgetown, Barbados. Scheduled to depart at 11.25am, this flight will have featured brunch. Operated by Boeing 787-10 G-ZBLG, the flight left more or less on time and was airborne by 11.45am.

It will take the crew about an hour to get everything ready for the service. So passengers will start to eat around 12.45pm. This is time for the full lunch, not brunch. If the flight had been delayed, which is not unusual at Heathrow, passengers would be eating their waffles or sausages at 1pm, 2pm or later.

For the many passengers connecting from Europe, which is generally one hour ahead of London, the brunch service is even less suitable.

British Airways brunch and late evening meal changes

Why has British Airways chosen this model?

Why has BA chosen this bizarre model? Obviously it is down to cost control. But why is the cutover point at 11.29am? I have reverse-engineered their decision, looking at outbound flights from Heathrow.

For simplicity, I have ignored inbound flights and long-haul flights from Gatwick.

Departures leaving before 10.00am might be suitable candidates for brunch. Unfortunately BA simply does not have many long-haul flights leaving that early.

I took the airline’s schedule for 6th November from OAG Schedule Analyser and identified all the long-haul flights departing from Heathrow.

The table below shows that only 1% to 2% of the airline’s long-haul First, Club World and World Traveller Plus (premium economy) capacity departs before 9.00am. In fact, there is just one flight – the early departure to New York JFK.

British Airways departures long haul by time

As you can see, just 14% of First seats and 11.8% of Club World and World Traveller Plus seats are scheduled to leave before 10am.

However, 25% of First seats and 20.7% of Club World and World Traveller Plus seats leave before the 11.29am cut-off.

BA’s reasoning is now arguably clear. A business case to save money by serving brunch was proposed, and management has pushed the service time back until the savings looked good enough. 20% of passengers was their magic number.

At the other end of the day BA is cutting costs too. It is only offering a light meal on flights that leave after 9.00pm. The table compiled from OAG data shows that this change affects 10.5% of First passengers and 12.2% of Club World and World Traveller Plus travellers.

Together, the cost cutting is expected to impact almost exactly one third of premium cabin travellers flying from Heathrow.

A beautiful number like one third is too much of a co-incidence for me to ignore. This feels like a service change designed by accountants.

British Airways brunch and late evening meal changes

Which routes are impacted by these changes?

Choice – in terms of your ability to choose an alternative BA departure with a full meal service – will be eliminated on nine out of 56 long-haul routes on the sample date I looked at.

Six routes will be brunch only: Dallas Fort Worth, Tokyo Haneda, Houston, Lagos, Nassau and Nairobi. On my sample date there are no alternative departures to these cities with a full meal service.

Three routes are only scheduled at times with the late light meal: Abuja, Abu Dhabi and Santiago. Again, on the date I picked there was no alternative BA flight available.

Nine routes will have a choice of brunch or a full meal service depending on which flight you pick. These are Bridgetown, Mumbai, Boston, Delhi, New York Newark, New York JFK, Los Angeles, Miami and Chicago.

Four routes will have a choice of a late light meal or a full meal service depending on which flight you pick. These are Cape Town, Dubai, Johannesburg and Singapore.

All remaining long haul routes fall exclusively into the noon to 9pm window where a standard full meal will be offered.

(Remember that I have looked at one day only. Some routes like Tokyo Haneda have multiple flights on certain days of the week.)

Things might not be so bad on short flights like Abuja and Abu Dhabi. Nairobi will be a disaster as the flight leaves early-ish at 9.45am but due to the long 8:50 flying time and late 9.35pm arrival it completely fills the day. Passengers will want more than a poached egg on toast.

I would hope that the ultra-long flights to Santiago, Singapore and South Africa are fully catered but I will not be surprised if they are not. [HfP edit – we understand that South Africa flights ARE impacted by the reduced catering.]

Overall, I expect the new brunch menu to be a disaster and it will hopefully be a matter of months before BA cancels it. It is not without form here. When a complex trolley based service was introduced in 2018 (image below) it took hours for the service to complete and the idea was terminated quickly.

British Airways brunch and late evening meal changes

Technology is meant to bring us fully personalised airline services

The prognosis for modern airline retailing is terrible. Consider these two conclusions:

  • The 11.29am cut-off point and the resulting optimistic-case 12.45pm service delivery time shows that BA decision-makers either do not understand or do not think through what the service will actually be like in practice
  • The fact that exactly one-third of passengers are impacted shows that service changes are probably designed by or for accountants, not the travelling public

When BA is taking decisions like this, how are they supposed to operate effectively in an offer-order retailing environment?

(HfP edit: ‘offer-order’ is the technical term for the move to fully personalised airline retailing. In theory ba.com would learn from your travel history and intelligently suggest relevant flights and non-flight ancilliaries during the booking flow. Whilst this sounds pretty basic, it is still a big step forward from the current position where airlines still email me asking if I need a hotel in London, despite my trip originally starting here and my loyalty account having a London address on it.)

The standard industry response would be to say that offer-order will be entirely driven by algorithms so it will all be OK. Some people would even say that a simply bad product like BA’s brunch service would not be designed in the offer-order world because data would show passengers would not want it. This misses the point.

Algorithms are designed and monitored according to the priorities of their human controllers. When these priorities are messed up, as the case of brunch shows they will be, the algorithms will simply not work.

Offer-order is seen by airlines mainly as a technical challenge. When it comes to the technical matters I am sure that British Airways’ solutions will be second to none. After all, they have the might of travel IT giant Amadeus behind them. Since they are an Amadeus “driver customer” it is fair to say that what goes down at British Airways will influence the industry.

Unfortunately the case of brunch suggests that the future of offer-order at British Airways may be a disaster because they do not understand what their passengers want. Since BA’s approach to the technology will influence almost every other airline, the future of airline retailing looks dismal for all passengers.

There is a simple solution. Airlines need to train their staff to think like passengers.

Managers should fly several times a year as commercial passengers. They should pay on their own credit card and reclaim expenses like millions of business travellers do.

Unfortunately we all know this will not happen. To fly. To starve.

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Comments (413)

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  • Barry says:

    Is this analysis the schedule departing London or the schedule departing all stations?

    • TGLoyalty says:

      I took the airline’s schedule for 6th November from OAG Schedule Analyser and identified all the long-haul flights departing from Heathrow.

      Its flawed.

      • John A says:

        I think your analysis was really interesting overall and I appreciate you taking the time to create it! That said, I bet the 1/3 figure is even higher when considering the outstation capacity

  • Ken says:

    So we now have Schrödingers accountants.

    Evil malevolent geniuses driving quality into the ground, who are at the same time are short sighted, know the value of nothing, never made a decision in their lives and couldn’t run a whelk stall.

      • TGLoyalty says:

        The actual genius behind these changes.

        I know it’s old but this is the person that does it.

        I’m not going to lie there will be someone somewhere deciding that 1 less prawn meets the cost target but they aren’t coming up with the menus.

        • Richie says:

          It’s an olive not a prawn.

          • flyforfun says:

            I don’t know. My recent Prawn Salad had 2 prawns where I was expecting 3 like in the “Prawn Curry” I had last year. Someone’s read the olive case study and it applying it elsewhere!

      • Dev says:

        Strange … for a Spaniard, you would have thought he would back a full meal for late night departures…

        • Rob says:

          🙂

          Good point! When I was at Grand Hyatt Barcelona this year (where people generally don’t eat late vs Madrid) we were the only group in the restaurant at 8pm, it was livening up at 10pm as we left and apparently peak arrivals were midnight. Hotel GM told me that he has a rule now that he walks out of dinners at 2am regardless of who they are with due to family commitments, leaving his underlings to plough on until the bitter end.

          • TGLoyalty says:

            Don’t eat late in Barca? I’ve never been for dinner before 10pm and no one local went to a club til about 2-3am.

          • Rob says:

            The Hyatt GM told me that it’s nowhere near as common as in Madrid.

      • Ian says:

        https://www.linkedin.com/in/adrian-pardavila-mih-132a5a26

        Maybe a polite message, might get to the right person!

      • ALISON says:

        I should think Adrian Pardavila has just severed his contract with BA or Do Co or both.

        • ChrisBCN says:

          This is a huge myth that people go out late to dinner in Spain. Some parts of the country (especially the more traditional areas) yes, some parts not at all. You will find the majority of restaurants in BCN have their shutters down by midnight, 0030. There are exceptions like anywhere, but they are a small minority.

          And as for going clubbing at 3am, most of the late night bars are closing at 3/330. There are a handful of late night clubs which will keep open until 5 or 7, but again these are the minority.

          • TGLoyalty says:

            All the clubs around the port area go on til about 6am and most are still serving proper dinner until atleast 12.

            Every time you mention is still about 2-3 hours later than in the uk.

  • mhughes says:

    That oliver guy has too much time on his hands

    • Rob says:

      So you’re saying that, instead of doing your current job, you wouldn’t like to sit and home and write a subscription newsletter where people pay you £60 per year (charged to their work expenses in most cases) for a couple of articles per month?

      A typical Substack ‘free to paid’ ratio is 10:1 so if that applies here Oliver is getting £60 x 300 = £18k a year for a couple of days per month. Sounds like a very good use of time.

      • George says:

        “So you’re saying that, instead of doing your current job, you wouldn’t like to sit and home and write a subscription newsletter where people pay you £60 per year”
        Probably wouldn’t quit my job for £18k a year

        • flyforfun says:

          No, but if you had other income streams (rentals, dividends, NEDs etc) this is just one that takes a few days a month to do .

        • Rob says:

          If I offered you £18k for 2 days work per month, based at home?

          Obviously, as Oliver does, you can do other paid work for the other 29 days if you wish.

  • tricky says:

    I can imagine a lot of leisure travellers are planning 2025 trips and thinking BA “fly to starve” or another airlines?

    With all the publicity about this, I can see people going elsewhere.

    • TGLoyalty says:

      I can bet you loads will be higher than they are today.

    • George says:

      Most people won’t see the publicity about this

      • LittleNick says:

        Very true, the average traveller and even a lot of frequent flyers don’t visit sites like this, this is a minority of travellers. This is what BA can count on sadly for any degradation to service

  • Mark Janes says:

    I took a mid morning departure from LHR with Air Canada a few years ago. “Brunch“ was served, consisting of steak, scrambled eggs and a Mimosa. Worked well. Sometimes we try to over-complicate things. I think BA would have been better looking at what “brunch” actually means to a lot of people and then designing a limited but high quality and appropriate menu in order to fit their cost-saving parameters.

    • Sarah says:

      Which surely shows that this is all about cost cutting. They could be offering up lobster benedict in F, and as you suggest, steak and eggs, but they’re not, they’re serving a fry up or eggs on toast.

      • john says:

        Breakfast, just named brunch!

      • Mark Janes says:

        I guess my overall point was that you can cut costs by simplifying but maintaining quality. Keeping the same lunch menu but just swapping out the main course for a breakfast main course is just laziness and lacking in creative thinking. They still have the costs of procuring and carrying the starters, desserts, etc and just end up looking ridiculous.

    • Londonsteve says:

      This is a good point. Brunch for many people brings up images of bottomless brunches in luxury hotels with vast choice. Faced with the current menu in J and F I can envisage a lot of disappointed flyers who’d like to eat the sort of things they get at a hotel brunch, clearly not with the same array of options but in spirit at least. Fry ups and pancakes are lame, redolent of caffs and diners.

  • NorthernLass says:

    You mention the NAS service being affected, but don’t forget that it continues to GCM or PLS, depending on the day of the week, and there is no additional meal service on that sector.

  • JABs says:

    You are a charmer on this platform aren’t you. The OP says they wonder if there will be crew leaving. Not sure you have to state it is a ridiculous idea. Your comment that ‘No one will be leaving’ is pure guess work as you can’t possibly know. There might be people who are older, who don’t really need the money but just enjoying the flying and serving people, but feel this is a drop too far in standards and takes the ’fun’ out of serving people. It’s not beyond the realms of possibility. Might not happen of course, but might well do.

    • JABs says:

      Sorry, post was in reply to Ken from a previous page, but didn’t stick there.

    • Richie says:

      Good points.

    • TGLoyalty says:

      But if this was the case wouldn’t they have left because the meals were awful and the cabins were filthy?

      I don’t think this is the straw that broke the camels back because the actual food is better there’s just less of it.

    • ken says:

      Well next time you fly LH just ask the crew would they prefer to serve first class or the back.

      Passengers (the vast majority) aren’t going to blame crew for poor menu offerings.

  • David S says:

    If QR are a significant shareholder in IAG, why don’t they jump in and say how rubbish this idea is and that long term it destroys value

    • Rob says:

      Qatar will be delighted about this move, coming just after they launched their new caviar service in business. You clearly didn’t read my bit in the Financial Times last Saturday!

      • Thaliasilje says:

        A brutally honest comment. Thank you, Rob.

        It raises a lot of questions about competition, market control, and the evolving nature of airline alliances and ownership structures.

      • David S says:

        Can we have a link please directly to last Saturday’s FT article. I had a look and think I found it but it was the other side of FT’s paywall

    • CJD says:

      Take a customer going from Scotland or the North of England to the Far East.

      You need to take a connecting flight in almost all instances, so why not go EDI or MAN-DOH-destination on Qatar instead of connecting via Heathrow on BA?

      • TGLoyalty says:

        Yup why not?

        Because most people are voting on price and shortest journey times.

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