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Brunchgate: How many flyers are impacted by BA’s morning and evening meal changes?

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Our articles on the new British Airways long-haul brunch and late evening meal changes this week caused a lot of discussion.

Oliver Ranson of Airline Revenue Economics produced an interesting analysis on the changes for his Substack newsletter and I thought it would benefit from a wider audience.

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British Airways brunch and late evening meal changes

As HfP covered this week, British Airways is now offering a brunch service on longhaul flights leaving before 11.29am. The menus look bonkers. As the HfP article showed, you will get:

  • a starter, like smoked salmon, soup or artichoke
  • a breakfast course like waffles or sausage, mushrooms and hash browns
  • chocolate cake, coffee and liqueurs

You can wash your breakfast down with a nice glass of red or white wine if you wish.

As well as the rather strange menu choices, BA has decided that any flight scheduled to leave before 11.29am will get this brunch menu. This choice looks far too late.

To see why, consider Monday’s BA255 flight to Bridgetown, Barbados. Scheduled to depart at 11.25am, this flight will have featured brunch. Operated by Boeing 787-10 G-ZBLG, the flight left more or less on time and was airborne by 11.45am.

It will take the crew about an hour to get everything ready for the service. So passengers will start to eat around 12.45pm. This is time for the full lunch, not brunch. If the flight had been delayed, which is not unusual at Heathrow, passengers would be eating their waffles or sausages at 1pm, 2pm or later.

For the many passengers connecting from Europe, which is generally one hour ahead of London, the brunch service is even less suitable.

British Airways brunch and late evening meal changes

Why has British Airways chosen this model?

Why has BA chosen this bizarre model? Obviously it is down to cost control. But why is the cutover point at 11.29am? I have reverse-engineered their decision, looking at outbound flights from Heathrow.

For simplicity, I have ignored inbound flights and long-haul flights from Gatwick.

Departures leaving before 10.00am might be suitable candidates for brunch. Unfortunately BA simply does not have many long-haul flights leaving that early.

I took the airline’s schedule for 6th November from OAG Schedule Analyser and identified all the long-haul flights departing from Heathrow.

The table below shows that only 1% to 2% of the airline’s long-haul First, Club World and World Traveller Plus (premium economy) capacity departs before 9.00am. In fact, there is just one flight – the early departure to New York JFK.

British Airways departures long haul by time

As you can see, just 14% of First seats and 11.8% of Club World and World Traveller Plus seats are scheduled to leave before 10am.

However, 25% of First seats and 20.7% of Club World and World Traveller Plus seats leave before the 11.29am cut-off.

BA’s reasoning is now arguably clear. A business case to save money by serving brunch was proposed, and management has pushed the service time back until the savings looked good enough. 20% of passengers was their magic number.

At the other end of the day BA is cutting costs too. It is only offering a light meal on flights that leave after 9.00pm. The table compiled from OAG data shows that this change affects 10.5% of First passengers and 12.2% of Club World and World Traveller Plus travellers.

Together, the cost cutting is expected to impact almost exactly one third of premium cabin travellers flying from Heathrow.

A beautiful number like one third is too much of a co-incidence for me to ignore. This feels like a service change designed by accountants.

British Airways brunch and late evening meal changes

Which routes are impacted by these changes?

Choice – in terms of your ability to choose an alternative BA departure with a full meal service – will be eliminated on nine out of 56 long-haul routes on the sample date I looked at.

Six routes will be brunch only: Dallas Fort Worth, Tokyo Haneda, Houston, Lagos, Nassau and Nairobi. On my sample date there are no alternative departures to these cities with a full meal service.

Three routes are only scheduled at times with the late light meal: Abuja, Abu Dhabi and Santiago. Again, on the date I picked there was no alternative BA flight available.

Nine routes will have a choice of brunch or a full meal service depending on which flight you pick. These are Bridgetown, Mumbai, Boston, Delhi, New York Newark, New York JFK, Los Angeles, Miami and Chicago.

Four routes will have a choice of a late light meal or a full meal service depending on which flight you pick. These are Cape Town, Dubai, Johannesburg and Singapore.

All remaining long haul routes fall exclusively into the noon to 9pm window where a standard full meal will be offered.

(Remember that I have looked at one day only. Some routes like Tokyo Haneda have multiple flights on certain days of the week.)

Things might not be so bad on short flights like Abuja and Abu Dhabi. Nairobi will be a disaster as the flight leaves early-ish at 9.45am but due to the long 8:50 flying time and late 9.35pm arrival it completely fills the day. Passengers will want more than a poached egg on toast.

I would hope that the ultra-long flights to Santiago, Singapore and South Africa are fully catered but I will not be surprised if they are not. [HfP edit – we understand that South Africa flights ARE impacted by the reduced catering.]

Overall, I expect the new brunch menu to be a disaster and it will hopefully be a matter of months before BA cancels it. It is not without form here. When a complex trolley based service was introduced in 2018 (image below) it took hours for the service to complete and the idea was terminated quickly.

British Airways brunch and late evening meal changes

Technology is meant to bring us fully personalised airline services

The prognosis for modern airline retailing is terrible. Consider these two conclusions:

  • The 11.29am cut-off point and the resulting optimistic-case 12.45pm service delivery time shows that BA decision-makers either do not understand or do not think through what the service will actually be like in practice
  • The fact that exactly one-third of passengers are impacted shows that service changes are probably designed by or for accountants, not the travelling public

When BA is taking decisions like this, how are they supposed to operate effectively in an offer-order retailing environment?

(HfP edit: ‘offer-order’ is the technical term for the move to fully personalised airline retailing. In theory ba.com would learn from your travel history and intelligently suggest relevant flights and non-flight ancilliaries during the booking flow. Whilst this sounds pretty basic, it is still a big step forward from the current position where airlines still email me asking if I need a hotel in London, despite my trip originally starting here and my loyalty account having a London address on it.)

The standard industry response would be to say that offer-order will be entirely driven by algorithms so it will all be OK. Some people would even say that a simply bad product like BA’s brunch service would not be designed in the offer-order world because data would show passengers would not want it. This misses the point.

Algorithms are designed and monitored according to the priorities of their human controllers. When these priorities are messed up, as the case of brunch shows they will be, the algorithms will simply not work.

Offer-order is seen by airlines mainly as a technical challenge. When it comes to the technical matters I am sure that British Airways’ solutions will be second to none. After all, they have the might of travel IT giant Amadeus behind them. Since they are an Amadeus “driver customer” it is fair to say that what goes down at British Airways will influence the industry.

Unfortunately the case of brunch suggests that the future of offer-order at British Airways may be a disaster because they do not understand what their passengers want. Since BA’s approach to the technology will influence almost every other airline, the future of airline retailing looks dismal for all passengers.

There is a simple solution. Airlines need to train their staff to think like passengers.

Managers should fly several times a year as commercial passengers. They should pay on their own credit card and reclaim expenses like millions of business travellers do.

Unfortunately we all know this will not happen. To fly. To starve.

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Comments (413)

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  • Richie says:

    It’ll be interesting to see if there’ll be an exodus of cabin crew who really are just too embarrssed. The mismanagers may then point the finger at the accountants who may have not had the cost of replacing cabin crew on the cost ‘saving’ spreadsheet.

    • George says:

      There won’t

      • Richie says:

        Sometimes changes in a job can precipitate resignations sooner.

        • TGLoyalty says:

          If they were going to do that they would have done it because the planes are always broken and filthy.

          You think they’re going to go because late dinners are missing a starter? Or because lunch has crap choices?

          • BA Flyer IHG Stayer says:

            They’ll be thinking about it when they get fed up of dealing with angry and hungry passengers.

          • CJD says:

            ‘Oh no, the poor lambs in business class who spent more on a ticket than I earn in a month don’t like 1 of their 3 courses I’m serving them, better sabotage my earning ability by resigning.’

    • Ken says:

      No one will be leaving because of this.
      Ridiculous idea.

    • Andy says:

      Crew turnover will be high these days anyway due to the ever worsening T&C’s imposed after the great covid crew clear out. Less and less see it as a career, more a way to see the world for a few years before being burnt out. I’d imagine they get hardened to complaints as they are not exactly new with BA. Dirty aircraft, faulty IFE, slow meal service, swapped aircraft due to tech problems, forgotten meals or drinks,

      It makes me laugh when people always say never again. BA know you’ll keep using them. Either due to company travel accounts, the best direct flight option and route choice from Heathrow especially. People tied in to exec club accounts or a stash of Avios

    • Sarah says:

      I would imagine that crew will try and avoid working in the premium cabins – both so that they don’t have to deal with all the complaints and so that they aren’t stuck eating pancakes for lunch and cheese for dinner.

      • Ken says:

        Oh yeah people will be fighting to work in economy rather than first.

        Do you think this is likely?

        • TGLoyalty says:

          Tbf the requirements are different and some absolutely do because they aren’t about the personal touch of hospitality or the perfection of getting the small details right that you need in First.

  • Dev says:

    There are some bonkers outcomes on connecting journeys via London.

    Taking Nairobi (where I lived for 4 years), if you go NBO-LHR-JFK, you starve on 3 out of 4 sectors being Brunch or Supper – a 75% strike rate!

    Just taking the NBO-LHR-NBO or vice versa is a great way to piss of your loyal customers from places other than London. You get Supper on the way out and Brunch on the way home.

    Lagos is equally terrible but the journey is a lot less with it being to about equal to a fast east coast flight from NA but there is no way the Nigerian clientele is going to accept these changes lying down.

    Way to go BA for pissing off some loyal but rich customers in Africa. The same goes for India, etc.

    All these people will start taking alternative carriers as service standards is a key factor for those who live in the developing world.

    • TGLoyalty says:

      And you never visit a lounge with any hot food on this route? Is the stop over in LHR typically very short?

      • Numpty says:

        You are assuming that the passengers on the flight will know BA’s unique meal service arrangements and to eat in the lounge.

        The quality of the food on offer in the LHR business lounge is a whole conversation on its own.

        • TGLoyalty says:

          Well they will before the JFK flight because they just been on the NBO flight. And they absolutely will for the return.

      • Throwawayname says:

        According to flyertalk, BA use the Kenya Airways lounge at NBO. I have been in that lounge a few times and can confirm that it does offer a sufficient amount of food to avoid starving, but the concept is more like substantial snacks as opposed to having enough for a meal to keep you going for most of the day.

        • Dev says:

          The Pride lounge has improved in the last year or so with the live cooking station. However, I would not go out my way to eat here. My preference in descending order would be a pizza at the Tusker Bar, burger at Hardees or something from Java.

          All in all, a luxurious premium circumstances courtesy of BA!

      • Dev says:

        It can be once you factor in getting off the aircraft at the B/C gates and through transit security, etc, head to the Galleries B gates and then back to C gates for the flight to JFK. Add in the frequencies of JFK flights means that you could be booked on a 90 mins connection which can be a rush.

  • Ivy says:

    BA needs feedback on this. If you have an upcoming flight, raise it on X (Twitter) now. Complain directly after your flight.

    Any other suggestions for giving feedback?

  • Bernard says:

    All just shows how shallow all the talk of investing in product is.
    This is pure cost cutting, together with the now filthy cabins.
    Easier to vote with your wallet. For avios that’s Qatar or Finnair going east, Iberia to latam and AA, or Finnair to west.

    • LittleNick says:

      I can barely find any TATL AA availability going west mainly on LHR-LAX. Annoyingly more AA J redemptions are open to Alaskan member using more points it seems but not other oneworld partners

  • TravelsWithMyHP says:

    I rarely eat on flights so I’m following all these discussions with some amusement.
    I choose to fly BA primarily because of their punctuality and spotlessly clean cabins. Oh no, hang on a minute…

  • TGLoyalty says:

    Were the 12 hour plus flights like HND, HKG, SIN and SCL excluded from the magic 33% the author thinks are affected by this?

  • cin4 says:

    Bemusing that people think the lunch options are somehow better and that they are so wedded to cultural norms about appropriate foods for different times of the day that this is genuinely unsetting.

    The food on BA is utter trash no matter what service it is. We all know this and it has been the case for years. Either you eat in the lounge before, bring something with you, or suck of the bad food. When the food is 2/10 to start with, it makes a negligible difference whether it’s a lunch main or a sausage and egg.

  • Grumpy Chicken 81 says:

    I’m sure it must have been said already, but why not just add £20 to the ticket price and serve proper meals. Like we’re going to notice on a business class ticket.

    The cynic in me thinks there’s a double saving here, a cheap food offering and lower drinks bill – who orders a glass of red with their bacon and eggs?

    • Throwawayname says:

      The ex-EU customers will likely notice even a £20 difference, it’s no coincidence that BA/oneworld offer the cheapest transatlantic F tickets by a huge margin (e.g. MEX can be under £2k return) and are super competitive in C even from Spain which is a ‘home’ market for them.

      The London-based bankers/consultants who expense it all obviously won’t care about price, but they’re less likely to switch because of the changes.

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