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Our articles on the new British Airways long-haul brunch and late evening meal changes this week caused a lot of discussion.

Oliver Ranson of Airline Revenue Economics produced an interesting analysis on the changes for his Substack newsletter and I thought it would benefit from a wider audience.

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We have edited this article slightly from its original format and any errors or typos may be ours. Over to Oliver ….

British Airways brunch and late evening meal changes

As HfP covered this week, British Airways is now offering a brunch service on longhaul flights leaving before 11.29am. The menus look bonkers. As the HfP article showed, you will get:

  • a starter, like smoked salmon, soup or artichoke
  • a breakfast course like waffles or sausage, mushrooms and hash browns
  • chocolate cake, coffee and liqueurs

You can wash your breakfast down with a nice glass of red or white wine if you wish.

As well as the rather strange menu choices, BA has decided that any flight scheduled to leave before 11.29am will get this brunch menu. This choice looks far too late.

To see why, consider Monday’s BA255 flight to Bridgetown, Barbados. Scheduled to depart at 11.25am, this flight will have featured brunch. Operated by Boeing 787-10 G-ZBLG, the flight left more or less on time and was airborne by 11.45am.

It will take the crew about an hour to get everything ready for the service. So passengers will start to eat around 12.45pm. This is time for the full lunch, not brunch. If the flight had been delayed, which is not unusual at Heathrow, passengers would be eating their waffles or sausages at 1pm, 2pm or later.

For the many passengers connecting from Europe, which is generally one hour ahead of London, the brunch service is even less suitable.

British Airways brunch and late evening meal changes

Why has British Airways chosen this model?

Why has BA chosen this bizarre model? Obviously it is down to cost control. But why is the cutover point at 11.29am? I have reverse-engineered their decision, looking at outbound flights from Heathrow.

For simplicity, I have ignored inbound flights and long-haul flights from Gatwick.

Departures leaving before 10.00am might be suitable candidates for brunch. Unfortunately BA simply does not have many long-haul flights leaving that early.

I took the airline’s schedule for 6th November from OAG Schedule Analyser and identified all the long-haul flights departing from Heathrow.

The table below shows that only 1% to 2% of the airline’s long-haul First, Club World and World Traveller Plus (premium economy) capacity departs before 9.00am. In fact, there is just one flight – the early departure to New York JFK.

British Airways departures long haul by time

As you can see, just 14% of First seats and 11.8% of Club World and World Traveller Plus seats are scheduled to leave before 10am.

However, 25% of First seats and 20.7% of Club World and World Traveller Plus seats leave before the 11.29am cut-off.

BA’s reasoning is now arguably clear. A business case to save money by serving brunch was proposed, and management has pushed the service time back until the savings looked good enough. 20% of passengers was their magic number.

At the other end of the day BA is cutting costs too. It is only offering a light meal on flights that leave after 9.00pm. The table compiled from OAG data shows that this change affects 10.5% of First passengers and 12.2% of Club World and World Traveller Plus travellers.

Together, the cost cutting is expected to impact almost exactly one third of premium cabin travellers flying from Heathrow.

A beautiful number like one third is too much of a co-incidence for me to ignore. This feels like a service change designed by accountants.

British Airways brunch and late evening meal changes

Which routes are impacted by these changes?

Choice – in terms of your ability to choose an alternative BA departure with a full meal service – will be eliminated on nine out of 56 long-haul routes on the sample date I looked at.

Six routes will be brunch only: Dallas Fort Worth, Tokyo Haneda, Houston, Lagos, Nassau and Nairobi. On my sample date there are no alternative departures to these cities with a full meal service.

Three routes are only scheduled at times with the late light meal: Abuja, Abu Dhabi and Santiago. Again, on the date I picked there was no alternative BA flight available.

Nine routes will have a choice of brunch or a full meal service depending on which flight you pick. These are Bridgetown, Mumbai, Boston, Delhi, New York Newark, New York JFK, Los Angeles, Miami and Chicago.

Four routes will have a choice of a late light meal or a full meal service depending on which flight you pick. These are Cape Town, Dubai, Johannesburg and Singapore.

All remaining long haul routes fall exclusively into the noon to 9pm window where a standard full meal will be offered.

(Remember that I have looked at one day only. Some routes like Tokyo Haneda have multiple flights on certain days of the week.)

Things might not be so bad on short flights like Abuja and Abu Dhabi. Nairobi will be a disaster as the flight leaves early-ish at 9.45am but due to the long 8:50 flying time and late 9.35pm arrival it completely fills the day. Passengers will want more than a poached egg on toast.

I would hope that the ultra-long flights to Santiago, Singapore and South Africa are fully catered but I will not be surprised if they are not. [HfP edit – we understand that South Africa flights ARE impacted by the reduced catering.]

Overall, I expect the new brunch menu to be a disaster and it will hopefully be a matter of months before BA cancels it. It is not without form here. When a complex trolley based service was introduced in 2018 (image below) it took hours for the service to complete and the idea was terminated quickly.

British Airways brunch and late evening meal changes

Technology is meant to bring us fully personalised airline services

The prognosis for modern airline retailing is terrible. Consider these two conclusions:

  • The 11.29am cut-off point and the resulting optimistic-case 12.45pm service delivery time shows that BA decision-makers either do not understand or do not think through what the service will actually be like in practice
  • The fact that exactly one-third of passengers are impacted shows that service changes are probably designed by or for accountants, not the travelling public

When BA is taking decisions like this, how are they supposed to operate effectively in an offer-order retailing environment?

(HfP edit: ‘offer-order’ is the technical term for the move to fully personalised airline retailing. In theory ba.com would learn from your travel history and intelligently suggest relevant flights and non-flight ancilliaries during the booking flow. Whilst this sounds pretty basic, it is still a big step forward from the current position where airlines still email me asking if I need a hotel in London, despite my trip originally starting here and my loyalty account having a London address on it.)

The standard industry response would be to say that offer-order will be entirely driven by algorithms so it will all be OK. Some people would even say that a simply bad product like BA’s brunch service would not be designed in the offer-order world because data would show passengers would not want it. This misses the point.

Algorithms are designed and monitored according to the priorities of their human controllers. When these priorities are messed up, as the case of brunch shows they will be, the algorithms will simply not work.

Offer-order is seen by airlines mainly as a technical challenge. When it comes to the technical matters I am sure that British Airways’ solutions will be second to none. After all, they have the might of travel IT giant Amadeus behind them. Since they are an Amadeus “driver customer” it is fair to say that what goes down at British Airways will influence the industry.

Unfortunately the case of brunch suggests that the future of offer-order at British Airways may be a disaster because they do not understand what their passengers want. Since BA’s approach to the technology will influence almost every other airline, the future of airline retailing looks dismal for all passengers.

There is a simple solution. Airlines need to train their staff to think like passengers.

Managers should fly several times a year as commercial passengers. They should pay on their own credit card and reclaim expenses like millions of business travellers do.

Unfortunately we all know this will not happen. To fly. To starve.

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Comments (413)

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  • MaryLou says:

    I travelled back in business class from MCO on Tues eve on the 21.05 service. Luckily I’m an avid HFP reader so ate dinner at the airport otherwise I would have been very hungry. The cabin crew are upset with the changes and I feel sorry for them having to deal with “hangry” & disappointed passengers. If BA had the courtesy to inform passengers ahead of time people at least have the option to feed themselves beforehand. BA need to inform passengers what meal service they are getting. The breakfast is also minuscule. The fruit option was ONE small bite size piece of melon, pineapple, half a strawberry & ONE blueberry. They have also taken away raid the larder. Very poor effort BA for a 3.5K ticket and an alleged premium experience. The cabin manager said she would provide feedback to BA. I will also be writing with my comments.

    • TGLoyalty says:

      I agree with this. BA should be telling their customers what will be served on board. How hard can it be to share the menu pre flight, including nutritional info which normally gives you a good indication of how filling it might be, even if you can’t pre order.

  • Rma says:

    Does anyone know what will be served to passengers in WTP and Economy? Will their lunch be more appropriate than BA’s Brunch?

    • John says:

      BA economy food already has tiny portions and is low quality (although I did have a Y flight in April and it was slightly better than my recollections of pre covid), it can’t really get much worse, ie. you need to bring your own food regardless

      On the other hand I took BA WTP last month and the food was surprisingly quite good and substantial. But not sure if the changes in this article have affected WTP

  • Ken says:

    I think Rob’s trolling us with the accountants jibes.

    Particularly when it looks more like something designed by private equity geniuses…

  • krys_k says:

    What about ordering a special meal…will they be brunch (hard to imagine what a brunch equivalent for an Asian or Kosher meal is). And are any of these meals tasty enough to choose as an alternative and therefore game the system (back in the days when I flew intercontinental economy I always chose the kosher meal as it was huge with a varied choice; much better than the standard meal…once a Jewish guy next to me having seen the kosher meal I got and having the standard himself complimented me on my gluttonous strategy).

    • Thywillbedone says:

      Indeed – plus special meals are often served first so you win in that regard also.

    • Tracey says:

      Given they have cancelled flights to TLV until April, there may be a lot of kosher meals in the freezer!

    • TGLoyalty says:

      Special meals usually mirror the type of meal everyone else is getting ie same number of courses etc

      So when they’re serving breakfast or afternoon tea you’d get something which was similar

      • krys_k says:

        Am flying at 10am to LAX on 04.11. I’ll order the Asian meal and see what comes up. I’ve found that the Asian mean and Kosher meals are the best alternatives.

  • George says:

    Someone who I won’t name will be on in a minute to tell us why sausages at 12:45 is a good idea and don’t complain if you haven’t tried it yet

  • David Smith says:

    Can someone in senior management explain the rationale for this crazy decision ?
    For many years B A business class has been a disaster. Finally we have the long awaited business class suite which should win back business from Emirates Singapore ect.
    Then you shoot yourselves in the foot with this madness !!!
    Customers should vote with there feet.
    AVOID BRITISH AIRWAYS

    • sigma421 says:

      It’s all been said here in one way or another but it’s a combination of.

      1. Management don’t fly with other airlines so don’t know what the market is actually offering.
      2. When management fly BA, they’re on staff travel fares which means they don’t get the full end to end experience that passengers do or a concept of how much it costs.
      3. Nobody is looking at everything in the round so one little tweak might seem okay to a particular team but the pile-on effect is a problem.
      4. Nobody is thinking things through beyond the very top line towards the downstream consequential. E.g. Brunch feeling particularly stupid if your 1100 flight doesn’t push until 1200 and you end up being served at 1330. Similarly they haven’t considered the downside of a supper service on a flight departing an airport like LAS or SAN where the lounge dining options are v limited.
      5. BA as an organisation pays badly unless you are at the very top, so good people leave and institutional memory is lost. Everything here has been tried before and failed but nobody remembers.

      • TGLoyalty says:

        I think perhaps 3 is the real issue who is checking to see there hasn’t been death by 1000 cuts to the whole end to end customer journey

        I struggle to believe the people at BA are dumb enough not to have considered the other things even if they discounted them as issues.

        • George says:

          If the CEO/MD/whoever says the company needs to find £xm of savings by x date then people have no choice but to find them.

          It’s the same in most companies.

  • David Smith says:

    Does British Airways have a specialist department that’s sole purpose is to come up with business decisions to piss off there customers ?!!!

    • George says:

      BA don’t exist to keep customers happy. They’re a listed business and their share price is up 90% vs a year ago.

      • Chris says:

        This is exactly the point.

        But the problem is that it means that management are incentivised to do things which provoke short term share price gains rather than ensuring the business thrives in the long term. It’s madness but it’s just the reality of how too many listed companies work these days.

        Just look at Boeing: a once great company that went badly off-track when its board became focused on short term shareholder metrics rather than trying to build a great business. That hasn’t gone great for them either…

        It won’t change unless/until the C Suite execs of these businesses are incentivised in a very different way.

        • George says:

          But if we’re looking at long-term then BA’s share price is up versus 20 years ago too.

          I’m sure a lot of people would say they used to be a much better airline 20 years ago, but that’s irrelevant

          • Chris says:

            That ignores inflation. If you’d bought BA shares upon its IPO, they’re worth less in real terms now than they were then.

          • Chris says:

            Sure, but I said “IPO”, not 2003.

            The reality is that the entirety of IAG is worth less in real terms now than BA alone was in 1988.

            And even taking your 2003 example, as you half-acknowledge, BA/IAG has massively underperformed the market as a whole since then.

            We aren’t going to agree on this, but I just can’t take seriously the idea that BA/IAG’s long term share price performance points to anything other than distinctly mediocre management. (To put it charitably).

          • Cicero says:

            Durr

          • TGLoyalty says:

            @Chris IAG is a completely different entity to the BA of 1988 -2000 which had stakes in many other airlines and operated from various airports not just London centric.

            The fact is since IAGs formation in 2003 it’s grown in real terms and if it wasn’t for the effects of the pandemic on its operations and aviation it would be atleast double its current enterprise value.

        • Anouj says:

          The whole idea of infinite yoy growth is ridiculous. The way share prices tank if a company has grown 0.5% less than expected just incentivises short term thinking and leads to this epidemic of enshittification we have.

          • George says:

            “ That ignores inflation. If you’d bought BA shares upon its IPO, they’re worth less in real terms now than they were then.”

            Nope. BA shares are up over 100% versus eg 2003 and inflation over that time is around 75%.

            Whether that’s a good return relative to other shares is a separate point but it’s not even close to correct to say they’re worth less in real terms

        • Dubious says:

          Airlines are typically short-term minded, unfortunately.
          It’s one of the problems on the broader industry as the supporting infrastructure requires long term planning and investment…

  • Andy says:

    I like your optimism using the example you have in the article. Take off to start of service in 1 hour 😂😂😂

    • TGLoyalty says:

      You’d be lucky if take off was within 1 hour of the secluded flight time 😬

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