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What is the best American Express strategy if you earn under £35,000?

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Back in July 2023, American Express introduced minimum income requirements on its UK credit cards. Here’s our story.

Up to this point, the company had taken a more holistic view. It was interested in household income, and interested in the gap between income and expenditure. There were no stated minimums, which made sense in a world where someone on a low salary living at home has more disposable cash than a couple on average incomes with a mortgage and children.

For whatever reason, this strategy was dropped in favour of a cruder minimum income one.

Best American Express card UK on low salary

What are the UK American Express salary limits?

There are now two salary limits in place:

When it comes to getting bonuses on multiple cards, you MUST have a £35,000 income. This is because only the ‘high fee’ cards unlock the ability to earn multiple sign-up bonuses:

  • you can get the bonus on The Platinum Card (50,000 Membership Rewards points) as long as you haven’t had a Membership Rewards card (Gold, Platinum, Amex Rewards Credit Card) in the last 24 months – you are totally OK if you’ve only had a British Airways, Marriott or Nectar card
  • you can get the bonus on British Airways Premium Plus (30,000 Avios) as long as you haven’t had a British Airways American Express in the last 24 months – you are totally OK if you’ve only had a Gold, Platinum, Marriott, Nectar or American Express Rewards Credit Card

Putting these rules together, someone who earns £35,000+ and hasn’t had any American Express cards for 24 months could get THREE bonuses back to back:

If you look at the rules above you’ll see that this works out.

American Express sign up bonus rules

But what if you earn under £35,000?

A reader recently asked me for American Express card suggestions for anyone earning between £20,000 and £35,000 per year. After all, the average UK salary falls squarely in the middle of this range.

Your options are limited, I’m afraid.

You can only apply for the following travel rewards cards, and you will only get a bonus on the first one you get (assuming you haven’t had an American Express card for 24 months):

There isn’t a lot to play with here.

However, there is one thing you can do.

Separate out the card you want a bonus on from the card you want to keep long term. These do not need to be the same card.

You then:

  • apply for the card which has the most attractive bonus
  • do the necessary spending to earn the bonus
  • cancel the card and apply for the one you actually want to keep long term (but you won’t get a bonus on it)
American Express Preferred Rewards Gold

Which card has the most attractive bonus?

It is usually Preferred Rewards Gold, reviewed here and apply here. You get 20,000 Membership Rewards points which, if transferred to airline miles (eg into 20,000 Avios), are arguably worth £200.

Even better, Preferred Rewards Gold is free for year 1 and comes with four airport lounge passes and 24 x £5 Deliveroo credits.

The value is debatable after year 1, but for the free first year you’re laughing, I think.

Of the others:

  • the Nectar card has a bonus of 20,000 Nectar points, which are worth £100 to spend in-store or 12,500 Avios if converted. We’d value the Avios at £125 and the card has no fee in year 1.

None of these cards has a bonus which beats Preferred Rewards Gold, in my view.

best American Express strategy if you earn under £35,000

What should be your long term card?

This may not be the answer you are expecting.

The Marriott, Nectar and Preferred Rewards Gold cards carry annual fees from year 2 (the Marriott Bonvoy card has a fee from year 1). If you are earning under £35,000 I don’t think you will be spending enough on your card to justify the fee versus what you will get back.

This leaves two free options – the free British Airways card and the American Express Rewards Credit Card.

If you earn under £35,000 then you are unlikely to be spending £15,000 per year on the free British Airways American Express card. This means that you won’t trigger the annual 2-4-1 companion voucher, which in any event is only valid in Economy. The only value the card has for you is that it earns 1 Avios per £1 spent. You don’t even get an extra bonus for spending at ba.com.

You are better off with the American Express Rewards Credit Card. This is because you earn 1 Membership Rewards points per £1, which converts to 1 Avios. However, you also have the option to convert them to many other travel rewards schemes (airlines, hotels, Eurostar) or indeed for High Street gift cards or statement credit.

In summary ….

If you earn between £20,000 and £35,000 and asked me for advice on the best way to start with American Express, I would say:

  • keep it for a year to maximise the 24 x £5 Deliveroo credits and the four free airport lounge passes

However, someone who believes that their income will increase and exceed £35,000 in the next couple of years may want an alternative plan.

You could get either the Marriott Bonvoy or Nectar card initially, leaving yourself able to apply for BOTH The Platinum Card and British Airways Premium Plus – and get both bonuses – once you hit the £35,000 salary threshold.

What is the best american express card uk?

Other reading:

This article looks at the best way to use American Express Membership Rewards points.

This article looks at the two American Express cashback credit cards which I haven’t considered here (as this is a travel rewards website) but which are also competitive for a long term card.

Interest rate information for the cards discussed above:

All of these cards carry high interest rates. You should only apply if you are certain that you will clear your balance each month and avoid any interest charges.

American Express Preferred Rewards Gold

Bonus: 30,000 points
SPECIAL OFFER

Read our full review

Other information:

  • Amex Gold is our recommended ‘first card’ for a miles and points beginner
  • Get four free airport lounge passes when you sign up, and a further four each year
  • After your four free passes, you can visit further lounges for a small fee
  • You receive £120 of Deliveroo credit each year (24 x £5 credits)
  • Annual fee: Free for the first year, £195 from Year 2

Representative 87.8% APR variable.  Annual fee applies after the first year.

See if you qualify for the 30,000 points sign-up bonus +

You will receive 30,000 American Express Membership Rewards points as a sign-up bonus on the American Express Preferred Rewards Gold card if you spend £3,000 within three months of signing up.

This is a special offer which runs to 27th May 2025.  The standard offer is 20,000 Membership Rewards points.

Membership Rewards points are hugely flexible, which is why we recommend this as the best choice for your first miles and points card.  You can transfer them into Avios, Virgin Flying Club or other airlines (at 1:1) or into various hotels schemes, into Club Eurostar or use them for shopping vouchers.

To qualify for the bonus, you must NOT, currently or in the previous 24 months, have held any other personal American Express card.

You are OK if you had a supplementary card on someone else’s American Express account.

You are OK if, currently or in the previous 24 months, you have held a Business American Express card.

For clarity, you can still apply for the American Express Preferred Rewards Gold card even if you do not qualify for the bonus.  You would still benefit from the four free airport lounge passes and the ‘no fee in Year 1’ offer.

Learn more about the card benefits +

American Express Preferred Rewards Gold comes with four free airport lounge passes.  These allow either you and up to three friends, or yourself four times, to visit any of the 1,400 lounges in the Priority Pass network.  You make additional lounge visits for £24 per person.  You receive an additional four free passes each year.

You earn double Membership Rewards points on all airline spend (made directly on an airline website) and all spend made outside the UK.

You will receive up to 12,500 bonus Membership Rewards points each year, based on how much you spend.

You receive £120 of Deliveroo credit each year.  Amex will repay you £5 for the first two Deliveroo orders charged to your Gold card each month.

Other benefits include a 10% discount on Hertz car rentals, Avis Preferred Plus car rental status and special deals at 1,000 selected hotels worldwide, where Preferred Rewards Gold cardholders receive a $100 in-hotel credit when booking a 2+ night stay.

You need a minimum personal income of £20,000 to apply for the card.

The Platinum Card from American Express

Bonus: 80,000 points
SPECIAL OFFER

Read our full review

Other information:

  • Two Priority Pass cards, each allowing two people into 1,400 airport lounges
  • Elite status in four major hotel loyalty programmes
  • Comprehensive travel insurance
  • £400 per year of restaurant credit (T&C apply)
  • £50 per half year of Harvey Nichols credit (ends June 2025)
  • Annual fee: £650

Representative 698.1% APR variable based on an assumed £1,200 credit limit and £650 annual fee. Interest rate on purchases 30.4% APR variable.

See if you qualify for the 80,000 points sign-up bonus +

You will receive 80,000 American Express Membership Rewards points as a sign-up bonus on The Platinum Card if you spend £10,000 within six months of signing up.

This is a special offer which runs to 27th May 2025.  The standard bonus is 50,000 Membership Rewards points.

Membership Rewards points are hugely flexible.  You can transfer them into Avios, Virgin Points or other airlines (usually at 1:1) or into various hotels schemes, into Club Eurostar or use them for shopping vouchers.

This is the ONLY personal American Express card where you still qualify for the bonus if you already hold a British Airways American Express card.

To qualify for the bonus, you must NOT, currently or in the previous 24 months, have held any other personal American Express card which earns Membership Rewards points.  This includes The Platinum Card and Preferred Rewards Gold.

You are OK if you had a supplementary card on someone else’s American Express account.

You are OK if, currently or in the previous 24 months, you have held any other American Express card, including the British Airways, Marriott and Nectar cards.

For clarity, you can still apply for The Platinum Card even if you do not qualify for the bonus.  You would still benefit from the long list of other benefits.

Learn more about the card benefits +

The Platinum Card from American Express comes with an unrivalled list of benefits for the keen traveller.

Your personal travel patterns will determine which of these is the most valuable.  The key benefits are:

Full comprehensive travel insurance for you, your family and the family of your supplementary cardholder, subject to enrolment

Two Priority Pass cards, each of which allows the holder and a guest unlimited free access to 1,400 airport lounges

Elite status in four major hotel loyalty schemes: Marriott Bonvoy (Gold), Hilton Honors (Gold), Radisson Rewards (Premium), MeliaRewards (Gold)

Access to Eurostar lounges, irrespective of travel class

£200 per year to spend in over 170 UK restaurants (£100 per half year)

£200 per year to spend in over 1,500 international restaurants (£100 per half year)

£50 to spend at Harvey Nichols, instore or online (£50 per half year, this benefit ends on 30th June 2025)

You need a minimum personal income of £35,000 to apply for the card.

American Express Rewards

Bonus: 10,000 points

Read our full review

Other information:

  • Your best choice if you want a ‘free for life’ card which earns Membership Rewards points
  • A good choice if you want to close a Gold or Platinum card but keep your points intact
  • Annual fee: Free

Representative 30.4% APR variable

See if you qualify for the 10,000 points sign-up bonus +

You will receive 10,000 American Express Membership Rewards points as a sign-up bonus on the American Express Rewards card if you spend £2,000 within 90 days of signing up.

Membership Rewards points are hugely flexible. You can transfer them into Avios, Virgin Flying Club or other airlines (at 1:1) or into various hotels schemes, into Club Eurostar or use them for shopping vouchers.

To qualify for the bonus, you must NOT, currently or in the previous 24 months, have held any other personal American Express card.

You are OK if you had a supplementary card on someone else’s American Express account.

You are OK if, currently or in the previous 24 months, you have held a Business American Express card.

For clarity, you can still apply for the American Express Rewards card even if you do not qualify for the bonus.  You may want to do this if you are thinking of swapping your Preferred Rewards Gold or Platinum card for a free alternative, and would prefer to keep your existing Membership Rewards points balance alive.

Learn more about the card benefits +

American Express Rewards is the only ‘free for life’ American Express card which lets you collect Membership Rewards points.

We do NOT recommend this card if you would also qualify for the sign-up bonus on American Express Preferred Rewards Gold.  The Gold card is free for the first year, comes with four free airport lounge passes and £120 of Deliveroo credit and has a higher sign-up bonus of 20,000 points.

The best reason to get American Express Rewards is if you are coming to the end of your free first year with American Express Preferred Rewards Gold, or no longer want to pay the fee on The Platinum Card, but want to keep your Membership Rewards points intact.

You need a minimum personal income of £20,000 to apply for the card.

British Airways American Express

Bonus: 5,000 Avios

Read our full review

Other information:

  • Receive a companion voucher, letting you book two flights for the Avios of one, when you spend £15,000 in a card year
  • A solo traveller can use it for a 50% discount on the Avios for one ticket
  • The companion voucher is only valid on Economy flights
  • It can be used on British Airways, Iberia and Aer Lingus
  • Annual fee: Free

Representative 30.4% APR variable

See if you qualify for the 5,000 Avios sign-up bonus +

You will receive 5,000 Avios as a sign-up bonus on the free British Airways American Express card if you spend £2,000 within 90 days of signing up.

To qualify for the bonus, you must NOT, currently or in the previous 24 months, have held any other personal American Express card.

You are OK if you had a supplementary card on someone else’s British Airways American Express account.

You are OK if, currently or in the previous 24 months, you have held a Business American Express card.

For clarity, you can still apply for the British Airways American Express card even if you do not qualify for the bonus.  You would still benefit from the companion voucher and the other card benefits.

Learn more about the card benefits +

When you spend £15,000 on the British Airways American Express card, you receive a companion voucher entitling you to book two Avios redemption flights for the miles of one.  This voucher is valid for one year.  (Full taxes and charges need to be paid on both tickets.)

The voucher on the free British Airways American Express card can only be used on Economy flights.

The voucher can be used for Avios bookings on British Airways, Iberia and Aer Lingus.

You receive your voucher within a few days of reaching the spending target.  You need to fly the outbound leg of your 2-4-1 flight before the expiry date of the voucher.

If you want more flexibility, the voucher issued with the British Airways Premium Plus American Express card is valid for two years, requires the same £15,000 of annual card spend and is valid in ALL cabins including Business and First.  The Premium Plus card also has a higher earning rate of 1.5 Avios per £1 on general spend and 3 Avios per £1 on spend with British Airways and BA Holidays.

You need a minimum personal income of £20,000 to apply for the card.

British Airways American Express Premium Plus

Bonus: 30,000 Avios

Read our full review

Other information:

  • Receive a companion voucher, letting you book two flights for the Avios of one, when you spend £15,000 in a card year
  • A solo traveller can use it for a 50% discount on the Avios for one ticket
  • The voucher is valid in any cabin
  • It can be used on British Airways, Iberia and Aer Lingus
  • Annual fee: £300

Representative 138.5% APR variable based on an assumed £1,200 credit limit and £300 annual fee. Interest rate on purchases 30.4% APR variable.

See if you qualify for the 30,000 Avios sign-up bonus +

You will receive 30,000 Avios as a sign-up bonus on the British Airways American Express Premium Plus card if you spend £6,000 within 90 days of signing up.

To qualify for the bonus, you must not have held the British Airways Premium Plus or the free British Airways American Express cards in the previous 24 months.

You are OK if you had a supplementary card on someone else’s British Airways American Express account.

You are OK if, currently or in the previous 24 months, you have held any other American Express card.

For clarity, you can still apply for the British Airways Premium Plus card even if you do not qualify for the bonus.  You would still benefit from the companion voucher and all of the other card benefits.

Learn more about the card benefits +

When you spend £15,000 on the British Airways American Express Premium Plus card, you receive a companion voucher entitling you to book two Avios redemption flights for the miles of one.

Alternatively, a solo traveller can use the voucher for a 50% reduction on the Avios required for one ticket.

This voucher is valid for two years.  Full taxes and charges need to be paid on both tickets.

This voucher is the most valuable perk available in the UK airline and hotel credit card sector in my view. It could save you 150,000 or more Avios when used for a long-haul redemption in a premium cabin.

The voucher with the Premium Plus card is far more powerful than the voucher given with the free British Airways American Express card.  You need to spend the same £15,000 to receive it.  More importantly, the Premium Plus voucher is valid for two years and is valid in ALL cabins.  The voucher on the free British Airways American Express card is only valid for one year and can only be used for Economy flights.

You receive your voucher within a few days of reaching the spending target.  You need to fly the outbound leg of your 2-4-1 flight before the expiry date of the voucher.

The voucher can be used for flights on British Airways, Iberia and Aer Lingus.

You need a minimum personal income of £35,000 to apply for the card.

Marriott Bonvoy American Express

Bonus: 20,000 points

Read our full review

Other information:

  • 15 elite night credits per year to help you towards higher status
  • Free night, up to 25,000 points, when you spend £25,000 per year.
  • Upgrade to Gold Elite status when you spend £15,000 in a card year
  • Annual fee: £95

Representative 54.1% APR variable based on an assumed £1,200 credit limit and £95 annual fee. Interest rate on purchases 30.4% APR variable.

See if you qualify for the 20,000 points sign-up bonus: +

You will receive 20,000 points as a sign-up bonus on the Marriott Bonvoy American Express card if you spend £3,000 within 90 days of signing up.

To qualify for the bonus, you must NOT, currently or in the previous 24 months, have held any other personal American Express card.

You are OK if you had a supplementary card on someone else’s American Express account.

You are OK if, currently or in the previous 24 months, you have held a Business American Express card.

For clarity, you can still apply for the Marriott Bonvoy American Express card even if you do not qualify for the bonus.  You would still benefit from the 15 elite night credits per year, the free night (up to 25,000 points) for spending £25,000 and Gold Elite status for spending £15,000.

Learn more about the card benefits +

You will receive 15 elite night credits per year in Marriott Bonvoy.  The first batch will arrive within 60 days on applying and then in Spring in each subsequent year.

15 elite nights will automatically get you Silver Elite status in Marriott Bonvoy and put you nearer to Gold Elite and higher tiers.

If you spend £15,000 per card year, you will be upgraded to Gold Elite status in Marriott Bonvoy.

If you spend £25,000 per card year, you will receive a free night voucher, valid at any hotel where reward nights cost up to 25,000 points.

You need a minimum personal income of £20,000 to apply for the card.

Nectar American Express

Bonus: 20,000 points

Read our full review

Other information:

  • You can convert Nectar points into Avios, and vice versa
  • Annual fee: Free for the first year, £30 from Year 2

Representative 37.1% APR variable.  Annual fee applies after the first year.

See if you qualify for the 20,000 points sign-up bonus +

You will receive 20,000 Nectar points as a sign-up bonus on the Nectar American Express credit card if you spend £2,000 within 90 days of signing up.

Nectar points are worth 0.5p each if spent in Sainsbury’s, Argos etc.  They can also be converted to Avios at the rate of 400 : 250.  1 Nectar point gets you 0.625 Avios.

To qualify for the bonus, you must NOT, currently or in the previous 24 months, have held any other personal American Express card.

You are OK if you had a supplementary card on someone else’s American Express account.

You are OK if, currently or in the previous 24 months, you have held a Business American Express card.

For clarity, you can still apply for the Nectar American Express card even if you do not qualify for the bonus.  You would still benefit from the ‘no fee in Year 1’ offer.

Learn more about the card benefits +

The Nectar American Express credit card comes lets you earn 2 Nectar points for every £1 you spend.  This is on top of any Nectar points you would usually earn at Sainsbury’s and other Nectar partners.

Converted to Avios, you would be earning 1.25 Avios per £1.  This makes the card better value than the free British Airways American Express credit card for your first year, as the Nectar American Express is ‘fee free’ for the first 12 months.  There is a £30 annual fee from Year 2.

The sign-up bonus of 20,000 Nectar points is worth £100 to spend in Sainsbury’s, Argos etc.

20,000 Nectar points can also be converted into 12,500 Avios.

You need a minimum personal income of £20,000 to apply for the card.

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  • MGOR says:

    Hoping to retire in the next year or so. I’ve just canned my BA cards as couldn’t see the value in them at the moment but subject to bonus sign ups may decide to take the paid card up again in a couple of years. However I do now wonder if my pension will qualify as income (will be over £35000pa). Has anyone had any issues with this? Thanks

    • BJ says:

      Pension qualifies as income as do other sources such as savings, investments and benefits.

    • Swiss Jim says:

      I retired a couple of years ago. Not drawing pension. So no income other than from investments etc. Never been asked to prove a thing – other than by some of the fintechs (who never ask for the right thing…). I think largely it comes down to how honest you are in the application – not any checks afterwards.

      • BBbetter says:

        Income from investments is still income. You need to get out of the mindset that only a job gets you income.

  • Daniel says:

    How do they know what your income is other than by self declaration? Isn’t this the point of the credit check which doesn’t, as far as I know, reveal income.

    • BJ says:

      There are ways they can find out, I don’t recall the details but there have been occasional comments on Barclays using such methods as part of their applications process.

    • Ken says:

      They don’t ‘know’, they can only go on information on your credit file which doesn’t contain actual income data sourced from HMRC or employers.

      It is of course fraud to lie on a credit card application.

  • Ian says:

    How would they know?

    • jj says:

      The credit bureax have tools that can verify income based on current account activity and previously declared income for other financial products.

      • Ken says:

        They can’t verify income based on your current account.
        They don’t have access to transactional data, or total monthly debits and credits on current accounts.
        In fact unless you have an overdraft facility your current account doesn’t normally appear on your credit file.

        • JDB says:

          @Ken – while firms do rely to an extent on people’s honesty and some awareness of the consequences of lying on an application, with the information available to them from a wide variety of sources, card providers can work out whether your income satisfies their criteria to a very high degree of accuracy. To the extent the data provided by the customer appears inconsistent/questionable an application will either get rejected or further information sought. Your assertion that firms can’t verify income is both false and rather pointless.

          • Andrew. says:

            It’s not hard for them to calculate income either. You start by calculating how much someone spends.

            Transaction value through credit cards, account reports from utilities and mobile phones, home loan repayments, car loan repayments, data from address to tell monthly Council Tax and any service charges.

            You can build up a real picture from someone by what they spend.

            And that’s before people share OpenBanking data with Airtime (or Nectar in the past), Collinsons with BA or Virgin shop or Sports Loyalty (Barclaycard/Virgin Money), and then there’s the option to give ClearScore or Experian direct access with OpenBanking to “improve your score”.

          • ken says:

            I said they can’t verify income based on your current account which is true.

            They have your credit file which is primary data will include mortgage, overdraft, loan, credit card, other credit, CCJs, missed payments etc.
            It will have previous application data some of which will have required payslip verification.
            They will have your address if on electoral role.
            They will know if you are married, they will have lawful access to your partners credit file if you are linked (usually via a mortgage).
            They may check that you are employed by who you say you are.

            All this is unique to you & normally highly accurate.

            Would it raise a flag if you had renewed a mortgage in the last 18 months by stating an income of £30k and now claim to earn, £60k ?

            Well of course it might.

            Do they ‘know’ you are earning £32k rather than £37k ?

            No they don’t know.

            To suggest otherwise is indeed both false and rather pointless.

        • Mel says:

          I think you will be surprised at what they can access from the open banking system these days. There are some clever tools they use eg for conveyancing, gambling checks etc

          • Roy says:

            Yup. Open banking is a fine substitute for asking you to post copies of your last however many months of bank statements – but that’s not something that credit card applications typically ask for IME.

          • TGLoyalty says:

            You have to give them access to see your account via open banking. It’s not a free for all

            Anyway if the question is can they see if you earn 33k or 37k (no) or can they tell if you earn £33k or £100k (much more likely to know you don’t earn that much)

      • jj says:

        The three bureaux know enough about what is in your current account without needing you to use open banking.

        There is a separate closed user group for current account providers. Detailed information from this closed group cannot be shared with other bureau customers, but there is an anti-fraud agreement in place that allows declared income to be validated against the closed database. So, Amex cannot ask the bureaux what you earn, but they can ask the bureaux for a confidence level that your declared income is both accurate and recent.

        As @Ken says, it is fraud to lie on a credit application. Beside the moral position, that’s a very foolish thing to do. Lenders’ policies vary, but, if you are found to have falsified income, in most cases you can expect a CIFAS fraud flag to be registered against you. If that happens, you will not be able to access any kind of credit for many years. And, if you work in a regulated industry, you may well be dismissed when your employer next conducts its annual fit and proper tests.

        • TGLoyalty says:

          Even what’s paid into your bank account isnt entirely your income.

          I have multiple current accounts they have no idea if it’s all from my single monthly pay or different income streams.

          • jj says:

            @TGLoyalty, theyhave information on all your accounts and can differentiate between transfers from your employer and transfers between your own accounts. It’s not perfect – it’s sometimes difficult to know if you’ve been paid overtime or received expenses, for example – but it’s accurate enough.

            Not that it makes any difference, though, unless you plan to provide false information. I would never do that. Would you?

          • ken says:

            Even people on PAYE of the same salary can have a fairly big difference in net salary.

            Are they subject to student loans & which plan ?
            Child support ?
            Pension ?
            Additional pension contributions ?
            Salary sacrifice ?

            Then there are people who have contractual or discretionary bonuses.
            Or people who use own car and could be getting £4.5k a year mileage allowance tax free.

            Then there are income sources that you may have a separate account for

            Buy to let – you could have gross income with negligible net income, or you might not have a mortgage on that property.
            Ebay / Etsy trading.
            A second job, say tutoring.
            A lodger
            Investment income, even if in an ISA and reinvested is still income.

          • jj says:

            @ken, all true. That’s why the bureaux only give a confidence level, and it’s why some people are pulled up for additional income verification. A clear majority of people in the UK have very straightforward income and tax affairs.

          • TGLoyalty says:

            Because employers are the only way people get paid 🤣

            As I said elsewhere can they say you earn c£35k vs £100k yes can they say you earn £33k not £35k no.

  • BJ says:

    I agree with this strategy but the card with the most attractive bonus should definitely not be cancelled before applying for the card you want to keep long term. If you cancel after receiving the SUB there is a risk amex may not approve your application for another card for some time. Therefore it would be less risky to apply for the second card while still holding the first, and cancel the first card only after being approved for the second card. Before applying for the second card it would be a good idea to half your credit limit on the first. Be aware that by following this strategy one downside is that the credit limit offered on yge card you want to keep long term is very likely going to be less than the first card you applied for but subsequently cancel. I would recommend waiting 3 months, and preferably 6, after applying for the first card before applying for your preferred card.

  • BJ says:

    I agree also with the Marriot//Bectar strategy for those who believe their income will grow above £35k in 2-3 years. The temptation here is whether to stick with those two cards alone with a view to Platinum asap or whether to make PRG the first card for a bigger SUB then move on to either Marriott or Nectar. The unknown factor in the strategy is what amex might do. They might increase the earning threshold further or change eligibility requirements entirely so decisions will be a bit of a punt in any case.

  • Ken says:

    Paying for the Marriott card on the hope your earnings are going to increase to £35k in a couple of years seems insane.

    You have no idea what the conditions of the other cards will be in 2 years , we don’t even know the benefits of platinum in 2025.
    Would you be able to spend £15k on the BAPP with an income of just over £35k ?
    Not impossible, but probably unlikely, maybe someone retired but not taking or qualified for all their pension yet.

    • BJ says:

      Presumably people would only apply for the Marriott card if they wanted it, there is no requiremebt to apply for any card before Platinum ir BAPP. Anyone who wanted those could just wait until their incone reached £35k and apply for those.

      • Rob says:

        There’s certainly no real value to it if you don’t value the 15 nights BUT the 15 nights is incredibly valuable for some people. I couldn’t retain Platinum without it and its a key factor in me hitting Lifetime Platinum in about 3 years time.

      • BJ says:

        Sign up bomus has been noosted a number of times in past few years I think which also helps.

      • Adam says:

        I get spend 200 with Marriott get 70 back once or twice a year. That justifies the price. But only use it at Marriots.

    • BBbetter says:

      It is also the best card for those looking to transfer to exotic airline programs. True, you lose a bit of value, but if someone wants aeroplan miles, what are the options other than buying?

  • Paul says:

    Been retired 2 years and no income yet got BAPP card in July. In fairness I have a platinum card and that dates back to 2007 though my Amex membership goes back longer than that. I recall having a gold card the late 80’s….. god that makes me feel old

    • BJ says:

      I’m not certain exactly how but existing cardholders seem to be treated differently.

    • Scott says:

      You say you have no income, but you must be living off of something. I ‘pay’ myself from my investments, and this is the figure I use for income on finance applications.
      WRT recently getting a BAPP, and a possible different application process for being an existing cardholder, are you saying that during the application you weren’t asked to declare you’re income, or you were asked and recorded it as 0 ?

  • Patrick says:

    Is the AMEX rule across the UK market or all?
    Still have a gold french card but contemplating going for the uk Plat again

    • Rob says:

      It’s whatever you think your income is …. if you count foreign income in too then that’s up to you.

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