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Uh oh: Virgin Atlantic makes sweeping changes to Flying Club, including dynamic pricing

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Virgin Atlantic has just announced it is changing the way you can earn and redeem points from 30th October.

This is what Shai Weiss, CEO of Virgin Atlantic, had to say:

“Our customers mean the world to us. We are flying because of them and for forty years we have existed to make their journeys safe and special. Our aim is always to do right by them and to make them smile. In our special Ruby anniversary year, we are making every single seat available for purchase with points, becoming even more rewarding for our millions of loyal Flying Club members.”

Chief Experience Officer Siobhan Fitzpatrick says these changes will offer customers “as much choice, value and flexibility as possible.”

Do you believe them? Let’s take a look.

There is a lot happening at once, particularly when it comes to redemptions, so I will outline the changes one-by-one below.

In many cases we don’t have all the details yet, making it difficult to determine whether you will benefit from these changes or whether this is the devaluation to end all devaluations.

Virgin Atlantic has now published guidance on its own website here, as well.

Virgin Flying Club Gold and Silver status

You can now redeem points on ALL seats

One of the biggest changes is that Virgin Atlantic will (from 30th October) open up all seats for redemption. If a seat is available for cash, you can use your points.

The catch, of course, is that these will be dynamically priced and “vary in line with demand” in the same way that cash ticket pricing fluctuates.

I am told that “pricing won’t work on a points per £ basis,” only that “we expect the large majority of seats available today to be at the same prices or lower in the future,” but Virgin Atlantic was unable to provide any further detail into the pricing model nor representative examples.

Whilst Virgin claims it won’t be based on a fixed points per £ basis, it’s hard to see how dynamic pricing could work without some sort of link between the points price and the cash price.

If pegged anywhere close to 2 points per 1p (as Virgin Red redemptions are) that would be BAD news, reducing the value to 0.5p per point. It would put a New York Upper Class flight, even in a sale, at 200,000 points plus £995 of taxes and charges. Outside sale periods you would be looking at ….. well, who knows.

Virgin have confirmed that there will be no minimum or maximum cap on pricing, simply that the price will be determined algorithmically, based on supply and demand, as cash tickets are.

Based on what we saw when Delta (which owns 49% of Virgin Atlantic, remember) moved to dynamic award pricing, redemptions could get toppy indeed and extend into the hundreds of thousands of points for some flights. Delta’s standard reward price for return transatlantic flights is 750,000 SkyMiles in business class.

Introducing Saver Seats

Under the current system, Virgin Atlantic guaranteed 12 seats available for fixed-price redemption on every flight: two in Upper Class, two in Premium and eight in economy.

This will be scrapped in favour of so-called ‘Saver’ pricing. Whilst these will also be dynamically priced, they will be offered “at or below today’s prices.”

It’s hard to know how this compares to the current offering without a pricing chart and representative taxes and charges, but Virgin Atlantic says flights to New York will be available from as few as 6,000 points. One-way standard season economy tickets are currently 10,000 points although there are regular seat sales.

Saver pricing will be available in all classes, but there is no guaranteed minimum number of Saver seats per flight, as these will be dynamically priced. What this means is that on popupular, busy flights where the cash price is high you should expect to pay high points prices, whilst quieter, cheaper flights for cash will also be correspondingly cheaper for points.

The removal of guaranteed low-price redemption availability is disappointing and means you are unlikely to be able to get good reward deals when cash prices are sky-high.

Virgin Atlantic could theoretically – and most likely will in reality – never release Saver seats on its most popular routes, forcing you to redeem for higher-cost, dynamically priced seats.

Changes to credit card and Gold tier vouchers

Changes are also being made if you’ve got a Virgin Atlantic credit card voucher or a voucher for renewing Flying Club Gold.

All current vouchers will be converted to the new Flying Club reward voucher on the 30th October.

You can continue to use the new voucher as a companion voucher or upgrade voucher, but it will now be redeemable on any seat in any cabin, in line with the move to universal redemptions.

A new, fixed points cap now applies to vouchers, in order to accommodate the new dynamic pricing being introduced:

  • Flying Club Red members can redeem their voucher up to a maximum of 75,000 points
  • Flying Club Silver or Gold members can redeem their voucher up to a maximum value of 150,000 points

The value of your voucher will be calculated at the time of redemption, not when you fly.

Here’s an example. A standard Upper Class redemption to New York is currently 95,000 points, return. If you are Flying Club Silver or Gold, you have no problem using your voucher to unlock a ‘free’ companion ticket, as it’s below the maximum 150,000 threshold.

A Flying Club Red member would be 20,000 points short, as the voucher only covers a maximum of 75,000 points. However ….

You will still be able to use your voucher even if it doesn’t cover the full amount of the companion ticket or upgrade, as Virgin Atlantic will now let you top it up. In other words:

  • Flying Club Silver/Gold members would pay 95,000 points + taxes for two Upper Class tickets to New York
  • Flying Club Red members would pay 115,000 points + taxes for two: 95,000 points for the first ticket, plus the voucher (worth 75,000 points) and the difference of 20,000 points.

This is not hugely different from the old system where Flying Club Red members could only redeem 50% of the points required for the second Upper Class ticket, although it does make cheaper Upper Class redemptions more attractive.

You’ll earn more points on Premium and Upper Class flights

The way you earn points will change as well, with Virgin Atlantic bumping up the number of points you earn. Upper Class tickets will earn ‘up to’ 50% more whilst points earned on Premium tickets will rise as much as 75%.

The exact rise will likely depend on your exact fare bucket – eg. a flexible Upper Class fare vs a standard Upper Class fare may change differently.

However, increasing the number of points you earn when flying is rarely a good thing as it suggests a devaluation is happening elsewhere (eg. at the point of redemption, assuming redemption prices go up.)

Not changing …. taxes and fees?

One thing glaringly absent from the press release was any mention of taxes and fees.

One of the biggest issues with the current state of Flying Club redemptions are the ludicrously high fees, which can easily hover around the £1,000 mark for an Upper Class redemption to New York.

This is the #1 biggest complaint we receive every time we write about Virgin Atlantic Flying Club …. not the desire to redeem points for any seat available. (Which, of course, you can already do via ‘points and cash’ redemptions.)

If Virgin Atlantic continues to charge the same ludicrous fees whilst also increasing the cost of points required under the dynamic pricing model then that would be a clear devaluation.

Conclusion

Virgin Atlantic is making a raft of changes to the way Flying Club redemptions work. All these changes will come into effect on 30th October, so you still have a month to redeem points under the current system.

At the moment, it’s hard to know the exact impact these will have as Virgin Atlantic has given very little detail.

In theory, being able to redeem points on any seat is a good thing, but as always it will depend on how these are price. The cynic in me wonders just how these dynamic rewards will be priced and how many Saver Seats will be offered per flight in each cabin. The lack of detail suggests it is worse than it might appear.


How to earn Virgin Points from UK credit cards

How to earn Virgin Points from UK credit cards (April 2025)

As a reminder, there are various ways of earning Virgin Points from UK credit cards.  Many cards also have generous sign-up bonuses.

You can choose from two official Virgin Atlantic credit cards (apply here, the Reward+ card has a bonus of 18,000 Virgin Points and the free card has a bonus of 3,000 Virgin Points):

Virgin Atlantic Reward+ Mastercard

18,000 bonus points and 1.5 points for every £1 you spend Read our full review

Virgin Atlantic Reward Mastercard

3,000 bonus points, no fee and 1 point for every £1 you spend Read our full review

You can also earn Virgin Points from various American Express cards – and these have sign-up bonuses too.

American Express Preferred Rewards Gold is FREE for a year and comes with 20,000 Membership Rewards points, which convert into 20,000 Virgin Points.

American Express Preferred Rewards Gold

Your best beginner’s card – 30,000 points, FREE for a year & four airport lounge passes Read our full review

The Platinum Card from American Express comes with 50,000 Membership Rewards points, which convert into 50,000 Virgin Points.

The Platinum Card from American Express

80,000 bonus points and great travel benefits – for a large fee Read our full review

Small business owners should consider the two American Express Business cards. Points convert at 1:1 into Virgin Points.

American Express Business Platinum

50,000 points when you sign-up and an annual £200 Amex Travel credit Read our full review

American Express Business Gold

20,000 points sign-up bonus and FREE for a year Read our full review

Click here to read our detailed summary of all UK credit cards which earn Virgin Points

Comments (304)

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  • VickyTM says:

    I’m a little confused by what this means…
    “You can use your voucher for a round trip, or two one-way flights. If the latter, these must be booked at the same time and be on the same booking. You can of course use your voucher for a single flight if you wish. ”

    I get the first bit, but where it says you can use “for a single flight” does that mean you can use it for a one way, but the voucher is only worth half the value. So effectively a 150k ( for example) voucher is not 150k, it’s actually 2 x 75k vouchers that need to be used simultaneously?

    • AL says:

      Until October 30th, a voucher is valid for a return trip or return upgrade (and Clubhouse access, but that’s moot here). You can book a one way trip, and leave half of the voucher in your account for future. After October 30th, you can use one voucher for a return flight or upgrade, or two independent one-ways but the voucher must be used entirely on the same PNR, so they are effectively getting rid of the half-used voucher concept.

    • AL says:

      So, yes: your thinking is correct. One voucher is now, really, two 75,000 points vouchers that need to be used simultaneously, otherwise you forfeit one.

  • Iamsmurphslaw says:

    “Our customers mean the £€$ to US”.

  • Mark says:

    Ouch! Due to Virgin’s very limited route network, high cash fees and poor UC seats on most routes, I already only value Virgin points at 0.5p each and had already decided to run down our Virgin points balance, having cancelled the credit card.

    The Gold status I’m about to get from the BA status match earlier this year may wind up not getting much use.

    I guess we’ll see how the detail plays out…

  • Soggy Bottom says:

    There is one more thing that you might have missed in the fine print. If you have the regards plus credit card, now you have to spend £20,000 instead of £10,000 per year to get that companion or the upgrade ticket!! Not happy 🥹

  • Mark says:

    I’ve been sitting on the best part of 500,000 miles between me and my wife. I’ve managed to secure 3 1 way seats to LAX in upper next year but I’ve recently cut back my VA Credit card usage and got rid of my wifes card completely. Was regulary 5 figures a month, now sometimes it doesnt even get to 4.

    Depending on what happens in this new “enhancement” I’ll probably burn the miles and ditch the other card.

    It’s a shame as virgins customer service is a 1000x better than BA’s

  • babyg_wc says:

    The US based card gets TPs.. $2,500 will earn 25 Tier Points, up to a maximum of 50 Tier Points per monthly Statement Period… fingers crossed

  • MarkMD says:

    As a number of posters say, it looks like it will be a case of wait and see. Virgin is a relatively small airline, and loyalty is probably a considerable part of their model. Typically upper and premium is packed out on a lot of flights on routes like JFK and SFO, and they know that if they upset frequent fliers BA competes on every route they fly, pretty much. So, unless they’ve got this very wrong, it’s likely the thinking is more nuanced than we might otherwise perhaps think. Of course, I may just be naive..

    • Rob says:

      The fact that they are massively increasing the earn rates in Premium and Upper implies very clearly that they need to buy off those who fly in the premium cabins.

      • MarkMD says:

        Agree. Although those with large balances may burn and not return… a delicate balance for sure, but I guess there’s a lot of flexibility in the model to make changes on the fly.

      • Super Secret Stuff says:

        The flights I’ve had on virgin in the last few weeks, in premium, I think about half had used either miles to upgrade a cash ticket or bid for an upgrade to get into it. This is based on the conversations I had with people and what I could overhear at different points.

        They might be wanting to increase the number of people that pay cash?

  • Mark says:

    You’ll earn 0.75 Virgin Points for every £1 you spend on card purchases. You won’t earn Virgin Points on cash advances, balance transfers, money transfers, interest or fees.

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