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Uh oh: Virgin Atlantic makes sweeping changes to Flying Club, including dynamic pricing

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Virgin Atlantic has just announced it is changing the way you can earn and redeem points from 30th October.

This is what Shai Weiss, CEO of Virgin Atlantic, had to say:

“Our customers mean the world to us. We are flying because of them and for forty years we have existed to make their journeys safe and special. Our aim is always to do right by them and to make them smile. In our special Ruby anniversary year, we are making every single seat available for purchase with points, becoming even more rewarding for our millions of loyal Flying Club members.”

Chief Experience Officer Siobhan Fitzpatrick says these changes will offer customers “as much choice, value and flexibility as possible.”

Do you believe them? Let’s take a look.

There is a lot happening at once, particularly when it comes to redemptions, so I will outline the changes one-by-one below.

In many cases we don’t have all the details yet, making it difficult to determine whether you will benefit from these changes or whether this is the devaluation to end all devaluations.

Virgin Atlantic has now published guidance on its own website here, as well.

Virgin Flying Club Gold and Silver status

You can now redeem points on ALL seats

One of the biggest changes is that Virgin Atlantic will (from 30th October) open up all seats for redemption. If a seat is available for cash, you can use your points.

The catch, of course, is that these will be dynamically priced and “vary in line with demand” in the same way that cash ticket pricing fluctuates.

I am told that “pricing won’t work on a points per £ basis,” only that “we expect the large majority of seats available today to be at the same prices or lower in the future,” but Virgin Atlantic was unable to provide any further detail into the pricing model nor representative examples.

Whilst Virgin claims it won’t be based on a fixed points per £ basis, it’s hard to see how dynamic pricing could work without some sort of link between the points price and the cash price.

If pegged anywhere close to 2 points per 1p (as Virgin Red redemptions are) that would be BAD news, reducing the value to 0.5p per point. It would put a New York Upper Class flight, even in a sale, at 200,000 points plus £995 of taxes and charges. Outside sale periods you would be looking at ….. well, who knows.

Virgin have confirmed that there will be no minimum or maximum cap on pricing, simply that the price will be determined algorithmically, based on supply and demand, as cash tickets are.

Based on what we saw when Delta (which owns 49% of Virgin Atlantic, remember) moved to dynamic award pricing, redemptions could get toppy indeed and extend into the hundreds of thousands of points for some flights. Delta’s standard reward price for return transatlantic flights is 750,000 SkyMiles in business class.

Introducing Saver Seats

Under the current system, Virgin Atlantic guaranteed 12 seats available for fixed-price redemption on every flight: two in Upper Class, two in Premium and eight in economy.

This will be scrapped in favour of so-called ‘Saver’ pricing. Whilst these will also be dynamically priced, they will be offered “at or below today’s prices.”

It’s hard to know how this compares to the current offering without a pricing chart and representative taxes and charges, but Virgin Atlantic says flights to New York will be available from as few as 6,000 points. One-way standard season economy tickets are currently 10,000 points although there are regular seat sales.

Saver pricing will be available in all classes, but there is no guaranteed minimum number of Saver seats per flight, as these will be dynamically priced. What this means is that on popupular, busy flights where the cash price is high you should expect to pay high points prices, whilst quieter, cheaper flights for cash will also be correspondingly cheaper for points.

The removal of guaranteed low-price redemption availability is disappointing and means you are unlikely to be able to get good reward deals when cash prices are sky-high.

Virgin Atlantic could theoretically – and most likely will in reality – never release Saver seats on its most popular routes, forcing you to redeem for higher-cost, dynamically priced seats.

Changes to credit card and Gold tier vouchers

Changes are also being made if you’ve got a Virgin Atlantic credit card voucher or a voucher for renewing Flying Club Gold.

All current vouchers will be converted to the new Flying Club reward voucher on the 30th October.

You can continue to use the new voucher as a companion voucher or upgrade voucher, but it will now be redeemable on any seat in any cabin, in line with the move to universal redemptions.

A new, fixed points cap now applies to vouchers, in order to accommodate the new dynamic pricing being introduced:

  • Flying Club Red members can redeem their voucher up to a maximum of 75,000 points
  • Flying Club Silver or Gold members can redeem their voucher up to a maximum value of 150,000 points

The value of your voucher will be calculated at the time of redemption, not when you fly.

Here’s an example. A standard Upper Class redemption to New York is currently 95,000 points, return. If you are Flying Club Silver or Gold, you have no problem using your voucher to unlock a ‘free’ companion ticket, as it’s below the maximum 150,000 threshold.

A Flying Club Red member would be 20,000 points short, as the voucher only covers a maximum of 75,000 points. However ….

You will still be able to use your voucher even if it doesn’t cover the full amount of the companion ticket or upgrade, as Virgin Atlantic will now let you top it up. In other words:

  • Flying Club Silver/Gold members would pay 95,000 points + taxes for two Upper Class tickets to New York
  • Flying Club Red members would pay 115,000 points + taxes for two: 95,000 points for the first ticket, plus the voucher (worth 75,000 points) and the difference of 20,000 points.

This is not hugely different from the old system where Flying Club Red members could only redeem 50% of the points required for the second Upper Class ticket, although it does make cheaper Upper Class redemptions more attractive.

You’ll earn more points on Premium and Upper Class flights

The way you earn points will change as well, with Virgin Atlantic bumping up the number of points you earn. Upper Class tickets will earn ‘up to’ 50% more whilst points earned on Premium tickets will rise as much as 75%.

The exact rise will likely depend on your exact fare bucket – eg. a flexible Upper Class fare vs a standard Upper Class fare may change differently.

However, increasing the number of points you earn when flying is rarely a good thing as it suggests a devaluation is happening elsewhere (eg. at the point of redemption, assuming redemption prices go up.)

Not changing …. taxes and fees?

One thing glaringly absent from the press release was any mention of taxes and fees.

One of the biggest issues with the current state of Flying Club redemptions are the ludicrously high fees, which can easily hover around the £1,000 mark for an Upper Class redemption to New York.

This is the #1 biggest complaint we receive every time we write about Virgin Atlantic Flying Club …. not the desire to redeem points for any seat available. (Which, of course, you can already do via ‘points and cash’ redemptions.)

If Virgin Atlantic continues to charge the same ludicrous fees whilst also increasing the cost of points required under the dynamic pricing model then that would be a clear devaluation.

Conclusion

Virgin Atlantic is making a raft of changes to the way Flying Club redemptions work. All these changes will come into effect on 30th October, so you still have a month to redeem points under the current system.

At the moment, it’s hard to know the exact impact these will have as Virgin Atlantic has given very little detail.

In theory, being able to redeem points on any seat is a good thing, but as always it will depend on how these are price. The cynic in me wonders just how these dynamic rewards will be priced and how many Saver Seats will be offered per flight in each cabin. The lack of detail suggests it is worse than it might appear.


How to earn Virgin Points from UK credit cards

How to earn Virgin Points from UK credit cards (April 2025)

As a reminder, there are various ways of earning Virgin Points from UK credit cards.  Many cards also have generous sign-up bonuses.

You can choose from two official Virgin Atlantic credit cards (apply here, the Reward+ card has a bonus of 18,000 Virgin Points and the free card has a bonus of 3,000 Virgin Points):

Virgin Atlantic Reward+ Mastercard

18,000 bonus points and 1.5 points for every £1 you spend Read our full review

Virgin Atlantic Reward Mastercard

3,000 bonus points, no fee and 1 point for every £1 you spend Read our full review

You can also earn Virgin Points from various American Express cards – and these have sign-up bonuses too.

American Express Preferred Rewards Gold is FREE for a year and comes with 20,000 Membership Rewards points, which convert into 20,000 Virgin Points.

American Express Preferred Rewards Gold

Your best beginner’s card – 30,000 points, FREE for a year & four airport lounge passes Read our full review

The Platinum Card from American Express comes with 50,000 Membership Rewards points, which convert into 50,000 Virgin Points.

The Platinum Card from American Express

80,000 bonus points and great travel benefits – for a large fee Read our full review

Small business owners should consider the two American Express Business cards. Points convert at 1:1 into Virgin Points.

American Express Business Platinum

50,000 points when you sign-up and an annual £200 Amex Travel credit Read our full review

American Express Business Gold

20,000 points sign-up bonus and FREE for a year Read our full review

Click here to read our detailed summary of all UK credit cards which earn Virgin Points

Comments (304)

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  • EvilGazebo says:

    At this point for me the only question is whether I convert my balance to Hilton

    a) Now
    b) In a week or two in case there is any more clarity
    c) Risk waiting until the changes are live – given how bad this all sounds I fear they might wall up that particular fire exit at the same time (?)

    • Mark says:

      Good point.

      What’s the conversion rate? (lazy can’t be ar**ed to look it up)

      • EvilGazebo says:

        2:3

        A decent balance and Hilton Gold status (so 5-4-4 on redemption nights) has meant this has always been a tempting out, especially given the ludicrous rise in YQ charges.

        • Mark says:

          ooo, that would do nicely. Pay for my 7 nights in LA next summer.

          • david says:

            And in US you get outsized value even in slightly desirable hotels.

          • The Savage Squirrel says:

            Stay in Oceana Santa Monica or similar and you can easily get 1p per HH point (not that I’d pay the cash prices, mind) so that Virgin to Hilton conversion rate starts looking more attractive.

  • NorthernLass says:

    So everyone still has to spend the same amount on the Virgin credit card to get the voucher, but if you’re only a Red member it’ll be worth half of the value a Silver or Gold will get?

    • Travel Strong says:

      This is the biggest kick in the teeth of the article to me, having dropped from silver a few months ago, and already not able to make a sensible redemption with my points/vouchers due to my BA points/vouchers being so much better (RFS vs VS fees)

    • Rhys says:

      This is no different to now. Virgin Red members currently have to pay 50% of the second ticket if booking into Upper. This change just puts a fixed points value on the voucher.

      • NorthernLass says:

        But you can use the voucher to upgrade and not be hit with any penalty currently, so it actually is going to be different, Rhys.

      • LittleNick says:

        So virgin are going to introduce dynamic pricing whilst simultaneously capping the voucher value, that’s having their cake and eating it. The voucher value should just match whatever dynamic price it’s used on

  • NorskSaint says:

    Having left Avios and arrived into a world of SAS and dynamic pricing for flights I cannot see any upside.

    As an example was pricing a domestic flight for a random weekend in May 2025… 2 adults, 1 child and 1 infant – 100k points!

  • Daisy says:

    VA have just announced a credit card in the US where currently booked cruises attract points and yiu can also redeem on VA flights. Maybe it’s all been done to bring everyone in line. Still no word on being able to earn miles on their cruises for us Brits though.

    • Rhys says:

      That’s Virgin Red, not Virgin Atlantic.

    • Aman says:

      Virgin Red gives 2 to 4 Virgin points (depending on red, sliver, or gold status) per £ on Carrabin cruises.

    • Rintz says:

      I previously had a Virgin Atlantic card in the US (co-issued with BofA, if I remember correctly).

      It was pretty crap TBH. It earned some TPs, but the opportunity cost was too high (just like in case of similar Delta or UA cards). Poor earning rates, and if you can get triple miles for the same spend on other cards (and get transferable currency that you can transfer 1:1 to VS, but also other programs), it doesn’t make sense to sacrifice miles on the way just for VS status – which I increasingly think of pretty worthless.

      I had some decent VS redemptions recently on partner airlines (mainly ITA, which sucks, but it’s a different story). Hope it stays the same. That’s the only sweetspot in Delta’s program after it’s gone revenue-based.

      • david says:

        Yeah that and the 9k business class to FRA/BE/DE/NL. But all in all its a damp squid.

        • Thegasman says:

          Fees on KL/AF short haul redemptions are significantly higher than BA with RFS.

    • AL says:

      You earn 4/£ when booked via VS Hols, plus the usual TP collections.

  • James C says:

    I’ve never understood the value in VS redemptions or the voucher so whilst I view this as bad before, worse now it doesn’t effect me. The silver lining seems to be how this has been communicated with a month notice for those with vouchers/ point balances to implement an exit strategy.

  • Mark says:

    I’m not sure they can change the voucher terms mid term can they? They could find themselves with a coslty court case.

  • Aman says:

    From a different perspective, while I’m not thrilled about the increase in points and taxes for immediate flights, I’m excited about the introduction of ‘Saver Seats.’ As a long-time member of the Virgin Flying Club, I’m looking forward to these changes!

    • Rob says:

      Virgin already has redemption sales at 25-50% off a few times per year. Saver seats are likely to cost more than these.

      Saver pricing is NOT fixed. There will be no chart. ‘Saver’ is whatever Virgin wants it to mean and will vary from day to day. I suspect it will be 1p per point based on cash with non-saver at 0.5p.

      • LittleNick says:

        Oh dear, that’s awful, I assumed saver would be capped at no higher than what redemption costs now

  • Kowalski says:

    You just know things are going to be bad when the opening sentence of the company’s statement isn’t “Our customers mean the world to us.”

    • davidn says:

      … or when there are 11 pages of HfP article comments in ~6 hours. Polar either way!

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