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Virgin Atlantic drops Shanghai flights, its last East Asian destination

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Whilst no announcement has been made, Virgin Atlantic appears to be dropping its daily flight to Shanghai.

The flight has been removed from the schedule from 26th October, which is the last day of the summer flying season.

Shanghai is the only Virgin Atlantic route to China and indeed the only remaining route to East Asia.

Virgin Atlantic to drop flights to Shanghai

Virgin Atlantic has flown to Shanghai for over 20 years, so this is not the cancellation of a route being run as a trial. However, with Tokyo and Hong Kong dropped in recent years, it was beginning to look like an outlier.

The logic for dropping it is there, I accept. At 13-14 hours each way, due to the diversion for flying around Russian airspace, the same aircraft could do two runs to New York or Boston in the time taken for one return to Shanghai. No doubt we will see Virgin Atlantic launch yet another new route to the USA in the next few weeks.

It is well publicised that Chinese tourism has not yet returned en masse post pandemic. Chinese tourism to the UK has also been disproportionately hit by the removal of VAT reclamation on luxury goods (indeed, all goods) for tourists.

For those Chinese who do still choose to visit the UK, flight times are shorter on Chinese carriers which are still flying over Russia.

What does this mean for the new Seoul route?

Looking eastwards, Delhi is now, surprisingly, the furthest east you can fly on Virgin Atlantic.

The airline is still committed to launching flights to Seoul as soon as the Korean Air and Asiana merger is approved.

This route is likely to go ahead. Virgin Atlantic is being given extra slots at Heathrow specifically to fly to Seoul and Korean may have committed to purchase a minimum number of seats each day as part of its codeshare agreement.

The merger can only go ahead if another airline agrees to fly long-haul between the UK and Seoul so you can be fairly certain that it will happen, one way or another.

If you are booked to travel to Shanghai with Virgin Atlantic, the airline will be in touch to discuss rerouting. I suspect you will be encouraged to move to China Eastern as a fellow SkyTeam member.


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Comments (149)

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  • babyg says:

    id been eyeballing this route for for 2025, it was one of the few virgin routes left to get decent points/fees redemptions on virgin metal…. so many great virgin routes/partnership redemptions gone over the last few years, and the mega high taxes/fees on the remaining ones..

    • Bernard says:

      QED why it’s being pulled.

      • babyg says:

        whats QED?

        • AL says:

          Quod erat demonstrandum, or – put another way – you provided a rationale in your comment for why it’s being pulled (i.e. not a TFS earner for them).

        • Peter K says:

          QED basically means proven by demonstration. In this case the use of QED by Bernard doesn’t quite fit.

          A more typical use of QED might be:
          I’ve argued for a while that Virgin Atlantic only really seem interested in flying West. Yet again we have news that another route East is being chopped. QED.

  • ADS says:

    Is there any legal reason why the UK and EU couldn’t just bring in a new rule that for flights landing in UK/EU – you cannot overfly Russia?

    It seems like we are handing business to foreign airlines with the current rules.

    • Jonathan says:

      You have to have permission from the country you’re flying over to use their airspace, and the reason to isolate Russia and an attempt to cripple their economy by many western governments was in response to the invasion of Ukraine. Japanese and S. Korean airlines are also avoiding Russian airspace

      • LittleNick says:

        Yes, I don’t think you’re answering the question that was asked, is there any legal/compelling reason why the UK/EU have not banned foreign airlines that have overflown Russian airspace from landing in the UK/EU?

        • Londonsteve says:

          Probably because it would invite retialiatory measures from countries whose airlines are currently cleaning up because they retain overflight rights. For example, those countries could deny overflight rights to UK/EU flights whose destination isn’t in that country which, in the case of a country a large as China, could present a serious issue for the airlines affected.

          • Erico1875 says:

            Same reason Europe is still buying Russian gas.
            They dont have the bottle to do a proper boycot

          • Ironside says:

            @Londonsteve has nailed it.

            Exhibit B: Consider how some of the Middle Eastern carriers happily overfly Iran on the way to Europe, for instance, when most (all?) of the European carriers avoid it. You could ban Emirates from doing so, but then good luck getting a landing slot at DXB for your British Airways A380.

          • LittleNick says:

            Ok thanks

  • Dace says:

    I have a PE flight that is after the deadline. My understanding is that they have to put me in the same cabin, but China Eastern (CE) do not have a PE cabin. What are my options here? Can I insist on a move to BA owing to the PE cabin, can I request a move to CE Business or do I just have to accept CE Eco? Not going to be happy if it is the the first or third options. I only conceded to such a long flight in PE as it was Virgin’s PE which I find comfortable enough to still nod off, cannot say that about BA PE or any Eco cabin.

    • JDB says:

      @Dace – it’s a bit messy! Unfortunately the one thing that VS almost certainly won’t do is to rebook you into MU business. The UK rerouting rules do stipulate ‘comparable transport conditions’ but they were written before PE existed and the concept of downgrades is allowed, subject to reimbursement for the inconvenience/lesser comfort.

      I would wait until VS publishes its guidelines and hope they have planned for proper like for like re-accommodation of all classes. If not you may need to press them a few times. Let us know how you get on – (there’s now a thread on the forums) as others will be in your position and if you run into problems, the collective mind will have ideas for resolution. There is more knowledge here than within VS.

      • Bob says:

        Spoke to Virgin yesterday, they will email customers tomorrow and then further options by Monday 22nd

    • Bernard says:

      Perhaps here you could ask for AF or SAS who do have PE?
      Or refund and rebook and pick what better suits you?

    • Dace says:

      To follow up:

      A) A refund is something I do not want to do as I am flying on an expensive date and my flight is a 241 points one.

      B) BA and China Eastern are the only direct flights. Everyone else is indirect, AF requires a significant layover.

      C) I do not accept Eco is the same as PE and that this back by legislation or even Virgins own practices by selling PE seats.

      I will report back, however I feel I am likely to be put in a position where I get told ‘fly CE eco, as this is permissable under the law or take a refund’.

      • Dace says:

        *is backed by legislation (I believe – correct me if I am wrong)

  • Wally1976 says:

    Out of interest, how much longer (roughly) does it take to avoid Russian airspace?

    • JDB says:

      It adds about two hours so PVG-LHR is 14h35 on BA vs 12h30 on MU, both long daytime flights!

  • Tao says:

    I have a Business ticket booked from PVG to LHR this December. Am I allowed to change departure city from Shanghai to Beijing during re-routing?

    • JDB says:

      @Tao – the airline is not required a change of gateway of that extent under the rules, and while it exceeds BA’s goodwill offer of changing gateway up to 300 miles, it’s not impossible that VS could offer this if on a friendly carrier.

    • Ed says:

      what made you think VS is going to reroute you, Ive just had a chat with their representative, and the only options are refund or rebook for a date prior the suspension date. This is unacceptable!

      • Peter K says:

        Correct Ed. It is unacceptable as it’s breaking the law. However, if enough people agree to it without realising their rights then Virgin will be happy…

      • Bob says:

        Spoke to Virgin yesterday, they will email customers tomorrow and then further options by Monday 22nd. They have to make agreements first with other airlines before they can advise on a rebooking policy. They haven’t even formally announced the suspension publicly – they only notified the trade yesterday and flights haven’t been removed yet from the booking system.

        • Rob says:

          Flights were removed from the system yesterday.

          • Bob says:

            sorry as a GDS user I meant whilst they have zero’d the availability they haven’t yet removed the flights from GDS but I’m sure that will happen within next couple days in line with their guidance.

          • AL says:

            And the public were informed yesterday by way of a VSbulletin, which is standard practice. Saturday is the date from which you’ll start to see updates made, starting with those integrating directly via GDS.

  • Scanditraveller says:

    Maybe this will lead to the São Paulo route finally being launched? Given the prices that BA and LATAM are charging nowadays, it’s quite likely this could be profitable for Virgin

    • AL says:

      Suspect we’re seeing PVG being pulled to increase India services, especially with Toronto in 2025. PVG is pulled the day before increased capacity to India begins. I think GRU might be dead in the water for the meantime.

      • Rhys says:

        This is just the end of the Summer 24 season. A lot of changes will be happening that weekend, doesn’t mean they are related.

    • Rhys says:

      My understanding is that Sao Paulo is not on the cards any more.

      • Jonathan says:

        They’ve been persistently struggling to get that route going for some time now, I guess they probably overestimated demand…

  • Ed says:

    just had a chat with virgin online representative, they can only offer a refund or a rebooking for an early date, no other options are offered!
    I will be exercising my right on challenging virgin on this case. At least they should help passengers to reroute, not just here’s your money pls leave .

    • Bob says:

      they arent aware of their own policies then as their guidance says they will contact customers from tomorrow onwards and then in terms of rebooking within the next few days. I was advised to contact them next week if i hadnt heard before that.

    • Jonathan says:

      Unfortunately not all their CS agents are the brightest in the world, I’ve encountered some who seem to have barely any understanding of a glitch or problem that requires calling them to resolve, and after trying to explain the problem, you’re still no better off than where you started, call back a while later or the next day speak to someone who knows what they’re doing and it’s resolved there and then !
      Annoying but that’s part and parcel of having to call CS phone lines with just about any company…

    • Pogonation says:

      They won’t have a policy in place yet. Just wait u til after the weekend. Right now it is probably correct that all they can currently offer is a cancellation and refund as they don’t have a rebooking policy in place.

  • Henry Young says:

    I was sad when they dropped the HKG lounge and sadder still when they dropped HKG completely. It always was a great value redemption. I still have a stock of points and being based in SE Asia these days, my only option for using then is into New Delhi and onwards via regional low cost (fortunately plenty of choice). You can occasionally get the DEL>LHR route for as little as 7,500 points off peak and during a sale. The opposite direction is not worth it due to high taxes – better off with a positioning hop first which rules out VS.

    • The Streets says:

      Do you need a visa if flying from SE Asia and bought separately

      • Dubious says:

        You might need a visa for India depending on nationality yes, but from experience in the past, it has been fairly painless and inexpensive to get an e-visa for India. Not sure if they permit them if applying from the UK though.

    • babyg says:

      #metoo – often mixed and matched reward flights back to NZ via HKG with Virgin…. used to be around 57k points and 35quid HKG to LHR in J

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