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First ‘densified’ BA Cityflyer aircraft starts flying today

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Today is a bad day for anyone who flies with BA Cityflyer, which operates from London City Airport.

According to Flyertalk reports, the first ‘densified’ Embraer 190 aircraft, with eight extra seats rammed in, will begin service on the 9.45am San Sebastian flight today.

It is also due to be used on the 2.55pm Frankfurt flight in the afternoon.

I should say that the ba.com seats maps for these flights still show the standard seating configuration (25 rows, not 27 rows) at the time of writing so this isn’t 100% guaranteed.

BA Cityflyer fleet to gain 8 extra seats

The new seating was meant to have been launched some weeks ago, but we understand that there have been delays in getting the required certifications.

Historically, Cityflyer’s Embraer aircraft fleet has had a generous (by modern standards) 33 inch seat pitch. This is because British Airways deliberately ordered them with 98 seats.

One reason was due to contractual issue with ‘mainline’ pilots. Heathrow pilots agreed to accept a lower paid pilot fleet operating from London City as long as the aircraft had under 100 seats and so offered less competition to Heathrow services.

There was also a cabin crew issue. Regulations require one crew member for every 50 seats installed on an aircraft. This is not OCCUPIED seats, it is INSTALLED seats. A 98 seat aircraft only requires two members of cabin crew.

These two issues have now gone away:

  • Heathrow pilots accepted a new contract as part of the pandemic restructuring which, I believe, removed any ability to influence the size of aircraft at London City. Remember that the new Euroflyer operation at Gatwick also pays pilots less than at Heathrow.
  • I understand that Cityflyer has already been experimenting with having three crew members on some flights for the last few months in an attempt to improve customer service. Three crew members would also potentially allow ‘buy on board’ to be launched in Euro Traveller.

What do the new BA Cityflyer seat maps show?

Here is a map for a future BA Cityflyer service using the old configuration. You will see that it has 25 rows.

Here is the seat map for a different flight. It has 27 rows, reflecting the densification:

What do we know about the new seat?

Officially, nothing.

It is reportedly the Geven Essenza RJ seat which offers:

a touch of those extra essentials able to slightly elevate a normally basic high density economy cabin section, into something with a bit more

Here’s a picture from their website (click to enlarge) albeit without the adjustable headrest that BA has apparently added:

New BA Cityflyer seat

The colour scheme is believed to be the same as the new Club Europe seats recently unveiled for the Heathrow fleet. There will be no at-seat power of any sort and no wi-fi.

What is the legroom on densified aircraft?

It seems that:

  • rows 1-12 will retain a 33 inch pitch
  • rows 13-25 will shrink from 33 inches to 29 inches
  • row 26 (new) will have a 29 inch pitch
  • row 27 (new) will have a 28 inch pitch

Whilst the entire aircraft has been refitted with the new slimmer seats, the exit row remains at Row 12. This is because the position of the emergency exits is fixed, removing the ability to add an extra row in front of it, and BA wants to give Club Europe passengers some extra space.

According to a report on Flyertalk:

“I’ve tried out the new seats and they are certainly much firmer than the old ones, but are taller with better back support and an adjustable headrest. I would say you sit higher off the ground than the current seats, and this along with a thinner back should mean legroom beyond row 12 is acceptable. Tray tables have a lip on the edge so no more meal trays sliding off.”


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Comments (77)

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  • supergers49 says:

    As humans get taller, airlines (in general) keep shrinking leg space.

    As someone who is 1.94M | 6’4″, I always used the BA EDILCY service when visiting London. However, given I am a lowly Blue I will not take the risk of being shunted at the back of the new densified planes.

    Back to easyJet Plus I go.

    • Nick N says:

      I too am 6’4″ and the seat pitch is already crippling, like my Kos Flight and return. As mentioned by other BA treating people like an LCC with premium prices.

  • TokyoFan says:

    Looks like an aircraft swap so not doing San Sebastián – I’m on the newly densified E190 (G-LCYV) this morning, 0905 flight to Belfast City. No idea what it’s like down the back, but very spacious in 2C as before 😉 Seats rock hard (I don’t mind that) and looking very smart and new, with adjustable headrests.

    • jjoohhnn says:

      Not a last minute swap as the tail was set to this at 21:26 last night, which is probably why Rob saw the wrong seat configuration.

      It’s also scheduled to be on this flights today:
      BA8453 LCY-AMS 1305
      BA8454 AMS-LCY 1620
      BA8724 LCY-GLA 1700
      BA8729 GLA-LCY 1855

    • LittleNick says:

      Like the ironing board train seats I bet the rock hard seating is to do with better fire regulations compliance and less material which is more fire resistant so less flammable and lower weight too so less fuel burn and passenger comfort as factor not even an afterthought

  • mhughes says:

    “a touch of those extra essentials ”

    If something is essential, how can it not have been there previously ?

  • Darren says:

    Yet another way to screw customers.

  • Tony says:

    Most airline seats are pretty grubby as it is. Those white seats are going to look pretty grotty in a few month surely?

  • Nick says:

    Rather disingenuous to have a seatmap that makes row 27 legroom look the biggest when it’s actually the smallest. I really hate when they do that, it’s not the first time. But it’ll only be changed if enough people raise complaints or chargeback claims for it…

    • Paul says:

      But the key makes it clear that row 27 doesn’t have extra legroom.

  • CJD says:

    Sorely tempted to jump straight in and get exit row seats for my GLA-LCY-EAS flights in March, but for 2 of us that will cost almost as much as the flights did…

  • Gosia44 says:

    I am about to book seats on FAO-LCY flight next Thursday. The map still shows 25 rows. Can I be confident that it will be the old style layout or is BA likely to change it at the last minute? Or maybe the map is wrong :/
    ET seats in rows 8-11 £35, rows at the back only £23.

    • Nick says:

      Cityflyer have 20 aircraft, of which 1 has been refitted and 19 haven’t. It’s entirely possible there could be a last minute hull switch but it’s low probability and not even they will know it yet.

      • Gosia44 says:

        Thank you Nick. So, 1:19 chance of bad luck. I will take the risk and book the cheap seats.

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