Aggressive BA Business Class fares to the USA and Canada from £1,150 from Dublin

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• Optimus Prime says:

  29 Apr29 April 13:00

  With those rubbish destination fees included even in redemption bookings plus their ridiculous tipping culture, I find it less appealing to travel to the US…

  I read that even Apple Store employees want to be able to accept tips! 😂

  • Rob says:

    29 Apr29 April 13:09

    No resort fees on Hilton redemptions.

    I saw a survey over the weekend saying that 14% of Americans tip self-service checkouts when the machine asks for a tip, so I think it’s fair to say there is no hope for a) reduced tipping or b) the American public.

    • Optimus Prime says:

      29 Apr29 April 13:49

      I guess it’s a matter of time till Hilton catches up with Marriott and IHG.

      BTW in the US you only get F&B credit instead of free breakfast, don’t you?

      Your comment about self-checkout tipping is spot on, that country is doomed 😂

      • Rob says:

        29 Apr29 April 14:06

        Hilton sees it as a competitive advantage, but lets see. Hilton pays the hotel the resort fee, in cash, so its clearly a big hit for the system fund – but, importantly, NOT a big hit for Hilton itself.

        Remember that, by law, all the money that the hotels pay into the ‘system fund’ for loyalty purposes must be spent on loyalty benefits. Hilton cannot make a $ from it. If they stop funding resort fees the money must still be paid for on something to do with the loyalty scheme.

    • Track says:

      29 Apr29 April 18:31

      About resort fees.

      Hyatt gives ‘no resort fees’ as special benefit to Globalist.

      What Grand Hyatts do?

      They introduce 10-15% service charge on EVERYTHING, including room rates. The expectation to tip your housecleaning, and on site restaurant waiter remains of course.

      • TGLoyalty says:

        29 Apr29 April 19:27

        I never tip on top of service charges if the waiter etc wants to argue take that up with your employer. It’s one or the other

      • Ziggy says:

        29 Apr29 April 19:31

        Hyatt doesn’t charge Gloablists resort fees on cash bookings. It doesn’t charge anyone resort fees on award bookings.

        • Track says:

          30 Apr30 April 14:22

          Correct, no resort fees for Globalists.

          But resorts/Grand Hyatts at resort locations typically have Service Charge, which is on top of ‘resort fees’.

          The entire amount (room rate, service charge, resort fee) is subject to statutory taxes of the country of course.

• Track says:

  29 Apr29 April 13:05

  I don’t see a glaring bargain, anything DUB-JFK, return comes up 1400 EUR.

  Anything DUB-…-MIA, return comes up 1800 EUR.

  • TeesTraveller says:

    29 Apr29 April 13:58

    Tons of availability on DUB-MIA from 28 October onwards for €1556 (6 month advance fare).

  • Simin CH says:

    29 Apr29 April 16:35

    Look at a REGIONAL airport.
    Any major hub airport has a premium.
    So look at a regional in Florida.
    Look at the link I pasted earlier, tons of places under 1200 euros.

• Matthias says:

  29 Apr29 April 13:27

  Was trying to book a multi stop for early April 25 (to catch the nee Exec Club year) and discovered AA booking horizon is only 331 days not 355 – so currently only bookable until 26th of March.

• David W says:

  29 Apr29 April 15:27

  I really don’t get this. London to NYC is probably an average of 6.5 hours between the east and westbound legs. As much as I love flying in business, it’s lunacy to fly to Dublin, then back to London, then to NYC. Even if you didn’t build in any safety margin at all, you’re going to be doubling your flying time at the very minimum, if not tripling or quadrupling. I’d much rather pay less money for PE (or even economy) and save myself a day of travelling!

  • Rob says:

    29 Apr29 April 15:51

    PE wouldn’t be a lot cheaper but, yes, you’re really doing it for the tier points.

    Remember too that if you don’t live in London the diversion is less because you’re potentially already doing a domestic connection.

    • David W says:

      29 Apr29 April 16:06

      Yes, granted, tier point runs are a different kettle of fish

  • Tom says:

    29 Apr29 April 16:26

    Agreed and if I am going to be in anyway Dublin I’d fly direct and avoid immigration in the US.

    The idea of flying from London to Boston via both Paris and Madrid is frankly ridiculous. The idea of flying premium is style and a lack of stress!

  • Simin CH says:

    29 Apr29 April 16:38

    You do not do it looking at time.
    You do it for style, comfort, fun, lounges and tier points.
    Sadly not for the Avios any more.

    You can enjoy the fun, spend time in lounges, like Cathay, Qantas and so on and eat and drink premium foods and spirits.

  • BA Flyer IHG Stayer says:

    29 Apr29 April 18:04

    I have a trip later this year ARN HEL LHR DFW SFO JFK LHR HEL ARN that I paid half of what the direct LHR-SFO would cost even allowing for the cost of positioning flights and extra hotel nights.

    That’s why some of us do these complex routings.

    • TeesTraveller says:

      29 Apr29 April 22:22

      Love this sort of thing, it’s a bit too crazy for me but I admire it nonetheless.

    • Señor Frog says:

      7 May7 May 15:14

      Totally agree.

      On final leg of BCN > LHR > ORD > LAS (which actually ended up BCN > MAD > MIA > LAS) return -all J (AA “Domestic F”) return, booked in December for €1,600 p.p.

      Granted: very much the long way around and positioning flights needed, but the equivalent direct flight LHR > LAS was nearly £4k p.p… jog on and no thank you very much!!

      Another US booking in July ex-BUD and again, more than 50% cheaper than direct…

  • CamFlyer says:

    29 Apr29 April 19:42

    At certain times of day, it might be almost as fast to connect xxx-LHR-DUB-LCY than xxx-LHR and then a taxi to the City.😆

• patrick says:

  29 Apr29 April 16:58

  I cannot believe how argumentative and unpleasant people become when they have been offered some free words of advice which might be to their benefit. I am very grateful for this article, thank you.

  • TeesTraveller says:

    29 Apr29 April 17:44

    I agree, and IMO this should have been the top article of the day.

    Of course if you live in London, you may be less reluctant to position to DUB to get these savings but from where i live I have no chance of a direct flight to the US.

    • BA Flyer IHG Stayer says:

      29 Apr29 April 18:00

      Horses for courses.

      I do it to save money. Plus I do like flying and the additional TPs help too.

      But I get that others can’t do it for various other reasons.like having kids. But with good planning these trips aren’t hard to organise and undertake.

      Did you se my comment in response to your BA Hol / car hire question?

      • TeesTraveller says:

        29 Apr29 April 19:47

        Yes thanks very much, I tried that and it works ok for the hotel (although €176 extra for 1 night in the Hilton DUB is more than the €134 booking direct). Despite the extra cost, I would pay that in order to avoid paying for the holiday until next year.

        I guess I was hoping to get a crazy priced flight and then get a decent car discount too. But maybe a car is not as important as it was in the past if you are just staying around Orlando.

    • Rob says:

      29 Apr29 April 18:26

      Our audience is a very broad one these days (we’ll do 2.8m page views this month and that’s before you add in the 20,000 who read us by email) and this is a bit niche as others have pointed out.

      • Michael C says:

        29 Apr29 April 18:53

        I’m sure there’s a good clump of readers like me: won’t get round to doing it myself (for now!), but love reading about it and other people’s complex routes!

        • PGR says:

          29 Apr29 April 21:45

          +1

• Lee says:

  29 Apr29 April 18:30

  Hi
  Little OT but since you mentioned “an enormous dump of Business Class Avios seats to the Maldives ” apologies if already mentioned elsewhere, that article said Nov/Dec but there now seems to be lots of CW availability in Jan/Feb 2025 (even over Feb half term)
  (I don’t have Seatspy but BA website shows plenty)

  • Rob says:

    29 Apr29 April 19:46

    Thanks, will take a look.

• Dan says:

  30 Apr30 April 00:51

  Why not redeem avios and spend 150.000 avios plus more than the cash flight amount in taxes!

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