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How much money will British Airways lose running the ‘Avios only’ flight to Dubai?

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How much money will BA lose running the 'Avios only' flight to Dubai?

On Tuesday, Avios collectors got a present from British Airways (see this HfP article). For the first time in IAG’s history a whole long-haul aircraft has been made available exclusively for people paying with points.

BA had experimented with Avios-only flights before, but limited it to pint-sized trips to European destinations like ski-snow-slopes Geneva, sun-sea-sand Ibiza and, for culture vultures, Florence.

This time it is different. Every fully-flat bed – and non-flat seat – on a wide-body will be occupied by a points booker. The late overnight flight to Dubai on 26th October 2024 and the lunchtime return on 2nd November 2024 will be full of leisure travellers pleased to have grabbed a bargain.

These flights are normally expensive as they are timed for the autumn half-term break (or, to avoid confusing First Class passengers, Michaelmas exeat .…).

Comparable flights from London on the same day are £1,082 in World Traveller with a bag, £1,870 in World Traveller Plus, £3,520 in Club World and £4,820 in First. The prices might go down a bit in one of BA’s inevitable red-banner sales. But for these peak-of-the-peak services, probably not by much.

It must be the case that seats sold for a fixed mix of Avios and cash are less valuable to an airline than selling seats for cash. If this were not so, many more seats would be available for points.

This means that I would expect IAG to be losing money on the Avios-only flights. The question is, how much? Read on to find out.

I apologise in advance for some of the terminology about fare classes used below. You can skip over some of the more technical paragraphs and jump to the conclusion if you wish!

How much money will BA lose running the 'Avios only' flight to Dubai?

Rack ‘em up

I have a technique I use that takes published fares and calculates a “best-guess” estimate of how much revenue particular flights and routes can generate for airlines. I call it the “shelf” principle.

Imagine you are in a shop looking at the things for sale. Items on the bottom shelf are often the cheapest. You need to look for them and reach down to pick them up, but because they are cheap and the laws of economics apply, many people will. Items on the bottom shelf sell at low prices but in high volume.

Now consider the top shelf. That is where the specialist magazines priciest items tend to be. Everyone can see them, but not everyone wants them. So the shop puts them above your eye line and you need to reach up if you want one. The top shelf has low volume but high prices.

Finally, imagine the middle shelf. It is eye level and in easy reach – desirable real estate. It has all your favourite brands on, but maybe you do not always buy your favourite. The middle shelf has mid-range volume and mid-range prices.

So:

  • Bottom shelf – high volume, low prices
  • Top shelf – low volume, high prices
  • Middle shelf – mid-range volume, mid-range prices

All three shelves probably generate the same revenue. Or margin, since this is retail. The key idea is that each shelf contributes equally.

It is the same with a well-run airline fare structure. Our best guess as observers is that each fare class, or revenue booking designator as we say in the trade, contributes an equal amount of revenue within a cabin.

Imagine an airline with only three Economy fares:

  • £1,000 for fully flexible
  • £800 for semi flexible
  • £600 for non-refundable

If revenue management has optimised the fares so that each contributes equally, how many seats will be sold at each price point to generate £100,000?

  • £100,000 / £1,000 = 100 seats
  • £100,000 / £800 =125 seats
  • £100,000 / £600 = 166 seats

Total seats sold = 100 + 125 + 166 = 391. These sort of proportions are realistic in my experience.

How much money will BA lose running the 'Avios only' flight to Dubai?

What does BA charge for cash to fly to Dubai?

The first of the two tables below shows the minimum fare in each fare class on London to Dubai for BA on the day when the Avios-only flight operates. The second table shows the mean fare.

To each fare I have added the rip off taxes YQ carrier surcharge to see how much BA collects when it sells the seat. Then I divided by two to get the equivalent one-way rate.

How much money will BA lose running the 'Avios only' flight to Dubai?

It is important to note that the fares actually for sale on BA’s website are not what the airline is expecting to receive for a flight. Not just on this Dubai pair, but on every flight.

There are various reasons for this. Corporates and travel agents often have access to special deals, and some passengers will be connecting, leading to complex rules about apportioning revenue. Connecting tickets are worth less per segment than a direct booking ex-London but still worthwhile if the total ticket value is worth having.

What would BA have made selling these flights for cash?

Using my ‘shelf’ principle of each fare type (flexible, semi flexible, non-refundable) contributing the same overall total revenue, I can work out my best-guess estimate of ‘lost’ revenue for the Avios-only flight.

Since this is half-term to Dubai, I think it is fair to say that under normal conditions British Airways would have sold every seat. I haven’t adjusted for the ‘guaranteed’ 14 Avios seats that would have been available regardless of this offer.

The table on the left assumes that every seat is sold for minimum price in that particular fare class. The table on the right uses the mean price.

How much money will BA lose running the 'Avios only' flight to Dubai?

There is no First cabin on the outbound service and the outbound flight has lower capacity overall.

The outbound flight would have been expected to produce £125,855 to £153,153 of revenue and the inbound flight £185,342 to £227,389.

Is this more or less money than you expected a long-haul BA flight to generate?

Note how much revenue is estimated to come just from Club World: 45% to 48%.

What will BA make selling these flights for Avios?

So how much will BA earn from the Avios-only flight? BA will get paid in full – or at least I find it hard to believe they will not.

They will be paid by their sister company IAG Loyalty, which collects revenue from selling Avios and buys seats from BA to be used by Avios collectors, who return their points to IAG Loyalty in return.

Let’s have a look at the Avios prices. At the time of writing the ‘real’ taxes and charges were £164 for World Traveller tickets and £270 for tickets in other cabins. This is money that BA has to pay to the British government in Air Passenger Duty (APD) and the various airport operators and agencies along the way. The difference is down to APD, which is charged at a ‘reduced’ rate for passengers travelling in economy cabins like BA’s World Traveller.

BA’s redemption pricing is quite complex and there are various ways to optimise the scheme. The headline pricing is as shown in the table below.

How much money will BA lose running the 'Avios only' flight to Dubai?

Not all passengers will pay the full price. Many will use an American Express 2-4-1 voucher, giving the holder two-for-the-Avios-of-one or a half-Avios price for somebody flying solo.

Some scenario modelling ….

I used two sets of variables – three different guesses for what BA is paid per Avios, and three different guesses on the percentage of seats booked with 2-4-1 companion vouchers.

The Avios values feel about right to me. 1p is my own target value and so far I have almost always done a lot better. 0.65p could represent the ‘mate’s rates’ scenario for pricing within IAG, if they have one. 0.85p is a middle-way scenario.

There are enough 2-4-1 vouchers around and a dedicated enough community of points collectors (remember that Head for Points readers had advance notice that these seats would be available) that I would be surprised if most seats were not bought using 2-4-1 vouchers.

My calculations assume that British Airways is not paid an extra fee by American Express or IAG Loyalty when a 2-4-1 voucher is used.

How much money will BA lose running the 'Avios only' flight to Dubai?

How much money will BA lose on these flights?

Here is the ‘executive summary’ table. Pick whichever scenario of ‘pence BA gets per Avios’ and ‘% of seats going to 2-4-1’ holders that you think is most realistic.

The number below is the loss that British Airways will take on this ‘Avios only’ flight compared to what it would expect to make selling the flight for cash.

How much money will BA lose running the 'Avios only' flight to Dubai?

Here are the results of the model in full (feel free to skip!):

How much money will BA lose running the 'Avios only' flight to Dubai?

On my calculations British Airways is going to lose between £134,000 and £302,000, return, by offering these Avios-only flights. Of course in reality BA will probably be paid their model of the market value of the flight and IAG Loyalty will take any hit for accounting purposes.

Notice how much higher the loss is for Club World and First than for World Traveller and World Traveller Plus. Club World and First will lose up to 80.2% and 73.4% of the revenue respectively that we would expect these flights to generate. No wonder premium cabin redemption seats are scarce.

Are you surprised that World Traveller Plus has the lowest loss? You shouldn’t be. Avios tickets are twice the Avios price of World Traveller, but cash fares at the top end (semi flexible, flexible) are relatively similar.

Club World, on the other hand, requires only 50% more Avios than World Traveller Plus but cash prices are roughly 3x higher.

Will it be worth it for IAG to lose this money? You bet. Loyalty programmes are a cash cow for airlines. A flight where every seat goes for points is great marketing for British Airways and IAG Loyalty. More collectors will come in and existing collectors will keep building their balances as a result.

When I checked on Thursday night almost every economy class seat had been sold for Avios on the way out, not just higher cabins. This is powerful marketing at work.


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Comments (73)

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  • Supersub says:

    On a positive note, loads of people emptying their Avios balance going to Dubai means less competition for reward seats on more interesting routes.

    • Mikeact says:

      A drop in the ocean..will make no difference whatsoever.

      • Dev says:

        As soon as those Avios have been redeemed, some American YouTuber / blogger had earned the equivalent back in a few clicks!

        • Robert Loblaw says:

          Most American YouTubers/bloggers aren’t interested in flying BA with Avios, especially ex-LHR. Taxes too high — way better options for those flush with UR/MR/C1/TY/etc. They’re using their Avios to purchase QSuite flights.

  • Paul says:

    I can see the benefits of BA pushing Avios only flights however I’d point out that doing so in half term was hardly a gamble, this limiting losses. Still given it was Dubai and half term it had absolutely no attraction for me. Horrible place (IMHO) combined with dozens of kids each way each way is not my idea of fun. Not now anyway!

    • numpty says:

      Worse still imagine being on a flight full of fellow avios collectors! Maybe the HfP readers should set up a meet in the lounge.

  • Bagoly says:

    Re use of vouchers: the assumption that Amex does not pay BA more at time of use is almost certainly correct.
    But surely Amex does pay something for it, whether on issuance (seems most likely) or in price negotiated per Avios.
    So discounting for the effect here seems like double-counting.

    • Rob says:

      It may do, but it may also be factored in to the overall average price paid by Amex per Avios.

  • Peter Lewis says:

    Schoolboy essay. BA provides in the balance sheet for avios awarded, so it has already taken the cost. The redemptions on this flight will reduce the provision, making its accounts stronger, which IAG need to take on any more debt to recover its Worlds Favourite Airline position

    • Rob says:

      It’s an arms-length deal with IAG Loyalty, who buy seats from BA on a semi-commercial basis. The points liability is with IAGL.

    • MPC says:

      Interested to see your numbers Pete with more in depth analysis!

  • Tony says:

    Why waste Avios going to that sandpit dump??!!

    • Cranzle says:

      What’s the point of this comment? It’s clearly not a dump. It’s safe, unlike the capital of this country. The quality of the hotels and food is fine. The service at hotels and restaurants is great.
      Criticising other countries successes seems to be a common thing in the UK. Perhaps we should be more critical of our own service, standards and infrastructure.

      • Dev says:

        It’s a cracking place to visit with young kids. Lots of choices of hotels at various price points, artificial beaches which are safe (low geadients, smooth sand, etc) for young children, extensive breakfast buffets, good weather, and being 6,5 hrs from the UK… just far enough from the bucket and spade brigade that heads to Greece, Turkey, Spain, etc

        • MPC says:

          God forbid you have to share a resort with those horrible people who travel to Greece, Turkey and the South-Western corner of Europe and NW Africa. Quite happy to criticise service within the UK but at least I’m pretty sure none of them were built on the backs of labour slave traded from Southeast Asia. Enjoy your reclaimed beaches.

  • jj says:

    It’s an interesting article, but the language is confused. BA has a potential opportunity cost; it’s not losing anything. The difference is only terminological, but it’s an important distinction in the world of finance. But the real conceptual error is to assume that an additional cash flight would generate the same revenue as existing cash flights on the same date without also reducing the revenues on those flights.

    The example assumes that 100 economy seats will sell for £1,000 each while the rest will sell for less. If BA though that the market could bear additional £1,000 fares, it would it would always sell more tickets at that price. So, if an additional cash flight were launched, a more likely outcome would be that each flight would have only 50 of the £1,000 passengers with the balance made up of customers paying the lowest £600 fare.

    In summary, I believe that the the article hugely overestimates the additional revenue that would be delivered by an additional cash flight.

    • Rob says:

      This is not an extra flight. It would have been a cash flight that was pulled from the schedule.

      • jj says:

        Doesn’t make any difference to marginal revenue, though. The same number of people will be willing to pay £1,000 for economy, so average revenue per seat on the other flights that day will increase.

  • The Savage Squirrel says:

    The Rack Em Up paragraph is fundamentally flawed. There’s no reason to think that each shelf (or cabin) will – or should – contribute equally in an optimised scenario (for maximum overall profit). In any retail model where impulse purchases are in play, more valuable real estate (i.e. the most visible areas) can – and should – contribute more. In the airline, it depends how strong the link is between each cabin (how prepared customers are to trade up and down cabins and flexibilities) as to how linked each bucket’s pricing and profitability should be. That’s a more complex calculation based on estimated behaviour – but the optimum solution is very unlikely to be equal revenue from all buckets – which is just an arbitrary position in this context.

    Whatevs though – it’s chicken-feed and any reduction in revenue for this flight should come straight out of the marketing budget as it is a promotional exercise after all … and on that basis it seems extremely cheap advertising (we’re here taking notice after all) so a great success. Hopefully this means we’ll see a few more of these, although marketing impact will greatly reduce with increased frequency (at which point it does indeed become merely lost revenue on high cash yield flights – as they’re never going to risk the marketing disaster of picking an unpopular low yield flight and risking empty cabins), so likely no more than 1 or maybe 2 per year I’d wager.

    So yeah, the article

    • TooPoorToBeHere says:

      > marketing impact will greatly reduce with increased frequency

      Will it?

      “Having opportunities to redeem in school holidays” is a super-powerful marketing tool.

      I ignored avios for years because of living in the north and having children, with the view that it was impossible to redeem so why engage with it?

      • The Savage Squirrel says:

        “> marketing impact will greatly reduce with increased frequency

        Will it?”

        Yes, obviously. If you ran one of these flights every single day then would you get 365 times as much press coverage and publicity as you get from running just one? Of course not. You’d get almost no further coverage at all because it quickly becomes routine, and “news” is – by definition – a break from the routine.

  • Nick says:

    It will be interesting to see how this adds up after the flight itself, once all revenues are accounted for.

    Something I would be looking at in particular and missed from the analysis is the effect on ancillaries – these make up a sizeable chunk of flight revenue now. Will paid seating revenue go up (because customers booking direct are always more likely to pay than those booking through travel agents) or down (because more than usual are silver/gold and get it free)? AUPs will be non-existent, and XSB will largely disappear as well, so the effect on total flight revenue could be significant.

    Cargo will have to leave one extra AKE unsold to offset the lack of customers on HBO fares, but this won’t be hugely significant in the grand scheme of things.

    One thing that’s for sure though is that it’s giving a huge ROI from a marketing perspective.

    • Rob says:

      What we don’t know is how many tried to book after the seats had gone. No-one in the accounts I manage was emailed about this but we know some were – wonder if it was restricted due to concerns over annoying those who missed it?

      • TooPoorToBeHere says:

        I was mailed in my account which has heavy redemption history at around 1000.

        P2 (and junior players 3 & 4) were not mailed.

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