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How I put together my most complex redemption ever, using nine programmes

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We’ve just returned from 12 days in the Middle East over half term. This turned out to be the most complex ‘miles and points’ trip I’ve ever arranged, coming together over a number of months as different elements opened up.

Life would have been a lot easier if I’d just bagged the guaranteed four British Airways seats for our dates when they opened up 355 days before departure. We weren’t committed to doing the trip at that point, however, and I always knew that my wife wouldn’t be able to join us for the full 12 days. I also wanted to run down other mileage balances.

If nothing else, this article will show you what happens when you don’t jump in 355 days ahead.

Madinat Jumeirah Dubai

There were a few elements at work here when I started to plan the holiday:

  • I wanted to make a dint in my over-large pot of Virgin Points at the expense of using Avios, if possible
  • Part of the hotel stay was always going to be for cash because there is a place we like and we are happy to pay for, even at the current crackpot rates
  • We knew from Day 1 that my wife would only join us for part of the trip due to work commitments, but we didn’t know which parts until a few weeks before departure
  • We are not willing to fly overnight in either direction given the large number of day flights available

Step 1: Getting to Dubai

Avios seats to the Middle East are virtually impossible to get in premium cabins over October half term (which is two weeks long for my children) unless you get the guaranteed seats at 355 days out.

Usually I use Lufthansa Miles & More miles to travel from the UK, changing in Germany or Switzerland. This is a good value redemption, especially as kids get 25% off, but post-covid reward seats were bizarrely scarce.

This is what we ended up with:

Club Eurostar redemption

Eurostar to Paris in Standard Premier

I had quite a few Club Eurostar points from recent trips to Paris and topped them up via a transfer of American Express Membership Rewards points. Standard Premier is the sweet spot with Eurostar in my view, especially for three people as you can get a table pair and an adjacent solo seat.

The total cost was 3 x 1,000 Club Eurostar points for 3 x Standard Premier seats, one way. There are no taxes and charges to pay with Club Eurostar redemptions.

Here is a recent HfP article on why ‘Amex to Club Eurostar’ transfers are currently a good deal.

1 night at Kimpton St Honore Paris

A few weeks ago, IHG One Rewards had some sort of secret flash sale / IT error / whatever which meant virtually all hotels were being sold for no more than 45,000 IHG One Rewards points for a few hours on a Sunday morning.

I jumped in and booked two rooms at the Kimpton St Honore Paris which is now running much more smoothly than when I reviewed it here. The standard rate is roughly 120,000 points so this was a great saving.

I chose this hotel because I know the location very well (InterContinental Le Grand where I usually stay is opposite) and the non-stop bus to the airport stops virtually outside. You can also walk to it in about 30 minutes from Gare du Nord – just head down the hill and keep walking.

The total cost was 2 x 45,000 IHG One Rewards points for two rooms. The cash rate was around €600 per room. Breakfast was free via my IHG One Rewards Diamond status.

Air France business class

Air France business class, Paris to Dubai

I booked this using Virgin Points. If you have kids and are travelling during UK school holidays, you will find that availability on points is always better with airlines from countries where the schools are not off during that week. I had no issue getting 3 x Air France business class seats.

(I did have trouble booking due to Virgin’s dodgy IT, as I covered here.)

This is a day flight, 1.45pm from Paris, which lands late evening in Dubai. A review of the flight will follow soon.

The total cost was 50,000 Virgin Points plus just over £200 of taxes and charges per person, one way.

InterContinental Festival City Dubai

Step 2: Staying in Dubai

3 nights at InterContinental Festival City

With my wife not joining us until Friday, I was willing to compromise on a non-beach hotel for three nights as it was just the children and myself. We’ve stayed at InterContinental Festival City before and know the area and the hotel.

I booked this during IHG’s weird 45,000 points flash sale, but actually the saving was minimal – this hotel tends to be around 45,000 points anyway. We were upgraded to creek-facing ‘premium’ rooms, which connected.

I have complimentary Royal Ambassador status via IHG, one of the few perks of this job. Restaurant breakfast was free due to my IHG One Rewards Diamond Elite status. Even better, because children are not allowed in the lounge in the evening when alcohol is being served, we were comped the huge evening restaurant buffet every night. Our total bill for three nights was £19.50 for three cans of coke by the pool …..

The total cost was 3 x 45,000 points x 2 rooms for three nights.

5 nights at Madinat Jumeirah

We always stay here – the top photo in this article is of Madinat – and since Jumeirah gutted its reward scheme a couple of years ago we’ve had to pay for it (shock). I’ve never reviewed it because you can’t, easily – four hotels, 70+ eating and drinking venues, multiple pools and lounges etc etc.

Suffice it to say that you shouldn’t let the tail wag the dog if you have a destination you really want to visit. Life is too short.

All you need to know is that this is, in my view, the most luxurious mega-resort opened this century. You can’t go wrong here irrespective of age or group (solo, family, couple, retired) as everyone is catered for. It’s not cheap though.

I had 33,000 Jumeirah One points from previous stays. I actively dislike the reward scheme – see our review here – but I was happy to cash in the points for £550 off the hotel bill. There was no better way to use them. I immediately earned 30,000 points back!

Jumeirah One is so bad that if you book via our luxury hotel partner Emyr Thomas, as we always do, you get virtually the same benefits as a top-tier Gold member!

Molly Burgess Max Burgess Al Maha Dubai

3 nights at Al Maha

Al Maha is Marriott’s The Luxury Collection’s resort in the desert outside Dubai – website here.

I have been interested in coming here for years but children under 10 are banned. My son cleared this hurdle during the pandemic and, with Marriott gutting the ability to get outsize value from the Bonvoy programme, it was realistically our last chance to go at a sensible points cost.

I don’t want to discuss it now as I will review it at some point. A photo of our tent and private pool is above.

The total cost for three nights was 285,000 Bonvoy points x 2 tents, so 570,000 Bonvoy points in total. The cash cost for our stay would have been £9,000 for the two tents. Al Maha is virtually all inclusive so there is little to pay on top if you don’t drink.

Under the new Marriott Bonvoy pricing structure it is likely to reach 300,000 points per night in peak season, meaning that repeating my trip is likely to cost around 1.8 million Bonvoy points in the future …..

Qatar A380 First Class

Step 3: Getting my wife in and out

Qatar Airways A380 First Class

I was expecting my wife to join us late – she simply doesn’t have enough annual leave to take two weeks off in October on top of holidays in February half term, Easter, May half term and Summer.

I originally had an Avios seat booked for Thursday on British Airways but at the last minute she decided to push her departure out to Friday. Being able to do this is, of course, one benefit of booking with Avios.

She ended up rebooked on Qatar Airways, First Class on the A380 from London to Doha. Conveniently for her it was literally my only option! She also ended up in ‘flat bed’ First Class on the short hop from Doha to Dubai as Qatar Airways is using a leased Cathay Pacific aircraft on the route at the moment.

The cost was 85,500 Avios + £394 for the one way trip. As you can see from the picture above, A380 First Class is – seatwise – not really an improvement of Qsuite, although the A380 fleet doesn’t have Qsuite in Business Class.

Emirates First Class

Emirates A380 First Class

Unfortunately my wife was required to head to Germany after five nights with us. Luckily Emirates flies from Dubai to Hamburg and this is a route where reward seats rarely seem an issue.

Business Class was available for 72,500 Emirates Skywards miles but when First Class is only 85,000 miles is seemed wrong not to …. The taxes and charges were £400 for the one way trip, which is a bit of a swizz given the lack of Government-imposed taxes.

I transferred over American Express Membership Rewards points to Emirates Skywards to book this. The transfer is instantaneous, so there was no risk of losing the seat.

I also had to book a British Airways flight from Hamburg to London for a few days later. Given the cost of cash flights, I was pleased to see Avios availability here.

Step 4: Getting home from Dubai

Meanwhile, my children and I came back on British Airways.

How was I able to get three (originally four) Club World seats from Dubai to London during October half term? By using points from the British Airways On Business programme for small businesses.

For some weird reason, long haul availability for On Business points is very close to ‘any seat, any flight’, even when there are no Avios seats for weeks on end. This is not the case for short haul, oddly.

The reason I have a lot of On Business points is that I add my refer a friend code to HfP articles about On Business! Thank you to anyone who ever used this code.

The cost was 3 x 21,000 On Business points + 3 x £305 for three one way flights to London.

Our articles always say that On Business points are poor value when used for Business Class vs Economy Class flights on British Airways – and they are – but I was happy to take the hit here. On Business points have a ‘hard’ three year expiry which can’t be stopped so I needed to use them and this was a good opportunity.

I should also add that I got 20% off the Uber from Heathrow to West London because I bought some Uber gift vouchers with PayPal as part of the recent American Express / PayPal promotion 🙂

Conclusion

If this sounds complicated, it was actually far worse in reality! For every option we took there were a number that I looked at and rejected. Having points in lots of different schemes is obviously beneficial but it also means you have far more options to explore, which takes time.

In the end, the trip used:

  • Club Eurostar points (for Eurostar to Paris)
  • American Express Membership Rewards points (to top up Club Eurostar and Emirates Skywards accounts)
  • IHG One Rewards points (for Kimpton Paris and InterContinental Festival City)
  • Virgin Points (for the Air France flights to Dubai)
  • Jumeirah One Rewards points (for a cash reduction on our Madinat Jumeirah bill)
  • Marriott Bonvoy points (for Al Maha)
  • Avios (for my wife’s Qatar Airways flight to Dubai and her return to London from Germany)
  • Emirates Skywards miles (for my wife’s flight to Germany)
  • British Airways On Business points (for my flight home)

Don’t ask how many hours were spent putting this together and running through the options. It was a good trip though.

The only downside is that my wife didn’t want to write reviews of her Qatar Airways First Class or Emirates First Class flights ….

Comments (205)

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  • Peter says:

    I do hope you will relay our disappointment with your wife not writing any reviews 😉
    But seriously what a itinerary. Loved reading it.

  • Paul says:

    Qatar A380 First Class is fantastic and nothing like the cell like Q suite. The food and wine is exceptional though the WiFi is awful!

    • Andrew J says:

      Even in business class the A380 is always my choice over other QR aircraft – the seat is far better than QSuite and the bar area is really enjoyable too. 15 hours on board from Sydney was bliss.

    • Rob says:

      Food is crap on the 8.45am because all you get is a cooked breakfast.

      • Andrew J says:

        What’s wrong with a cooked breakfast? I always enjoy mine.

        • Rob says:

          You can’t make anything ‘first class’ from a cooked breakfast.

          • Mikeact says:

            So what would make a breakfast ‘First Class’ on any given flight ?

          • Rob says:

            Nothing, in my view, unfortunately!

          • Dubious says:

            Does that, conversely mean, that breakfasts in Business and Economy are as good as First Class?

          • Tom says:

            If your wife complained about the food she is very right! I took the same QR flight as your wife a couple of weeks ago (think not the same day, but who knows?) and it was the worst menu I have ever had in 50+ longhaul F flights. I normally take the afternoon flights on the A380 and was genuinely shocked – embarrassingly bad. It’s no just that it’s breakfast dishes (I’ve had decent breakfast menus even in J on some airlines) every dish was just cheap carbs and the non-breakfast options were ‘match day’ snacks (vomit) like a pie or nachos. Suffice to say I won’t be taking it again…

      • BJ says:

        I don’t get the positive comments on food on QR. Generally been quite poor in my limited experience (but good in T4 lounge). My partner went further, he hated it. By contrast, just flew Finnair LHR-HEL-BKK on Monday and thought the food was good again even though many trash it. In my experience they do fish dishes better than any airline I’ve flown, and I find the generally lighter meals more suited to flying.

        • HBommie says:

          Probably a bit late to ask but we’ll be doing that route in a couple of weeks and its good to hear that you enjoyed it, was it the morning flight from LHR? Also, I understand that the new seat isn’t on this route, is that correct?

          • BJ says:

            @HBommie, it was the AY1332 departing LHR 10.20. It was a350-9 with old seat 1-2-1 which went on to HKG later that evening. Parked on a remote stand so bus to terminal. Meal (no choice available) was beef and potato salad starter, pasta main and giant cookie for desert. My partner preordered seafood meal from special diet which was hot smoked salmon. There was no separate entry to gate at LHR, just one huge line so we hung back and boarded last. Used CX lounge near gate 11 at T3 after connecting on 06.10 from EDI. Plane was about 15 minutes late into Helsinki so no time for lounge as AY142 to BKK was already boarding, again there was no entrance for business class and boarding was a free for all when it opened so stand near the (rear) door to the airbridge. Aircraft was an a350-9 with new Sofa Lounge seat. I loved it, best contemporary J seat available amongst those I’ve tried in recent years. Very comfortable seat, great bed and great screen. Had dinner, I preodered smoked trout and my partner the vegetarian Thai option and we were both happy with them. Tge ither option was veef cheeks, you can preorder on Finnair MMB. After dinner I slept 6h, then watched Top Gun, listened to music for an hour , had breakfast and then we were there 15 minutes early. Breakfast was full English no choice. Came with bread, cheese, yoghurt and fruit. You can check your aircraft numbers on flightradar24 about 24-48h in advance to help identify which seats you will get.

          • Hbommie says:

            Thanks BJ really good info, I’ll have to check MMB as the preorder selections sound preferable. I’m also hoping for both seats as it’ll be interesting to compare.

            Have a great time during loy krathong, gutted we’ve missed.

    • HH says:

      For a night flight, the Qsuite with a door concept comes into its own. On day flights, I prefer Qatar F or the J herringbone seats (with the added bonus of the A380 onboard bar!)

      • HH says:

        The F pyjamas and amenity kit are a step above though. Plus the onboard vintage Krug…

        • Tom says:

          There haven’t been separate F pajamas and amenity kits for years, unfortunately.

  • JW says:

    Wow. The comments here went a bit political!
    Rob. Sorry to ask but your last paragraph made me chuckle. Why didn’t the wife want to help? 😂

  • A says:

    Not to nitpick but I would have probably gotten a cash air ticket from London to Paris and stayed at the airport. Or even looked at the ams to dxb options. Saudi airlines had a £350 biz ticket from Ams to dxb that I flew on. To get to Ams I flew to Rotterdam (decent Avios availability) and jumped on a train.

  • DZOO says:

    Great stuff/trip Rob – as the very epitome of this site, one of the articles I’ve enjoyed reading the most (would be very interested to see more along these lines as it’s good inspo, as they say)!

  • Umba says:

    Sorry for my confusion but you say your wife was rebooked on Qatar in First. Do you mean you cancelled her BA redemption and all you could find in terms of redemption availability was Qatar First or is there some other magic going on here?

  • Iain says:

    Thanks for reviewing your family trip which I know you don’t always do for privacy reasons (and given some of the comments, no wonder!).

    A good reminder that Avios aren’t the only show in town and getting real value often takes hours of research and effort. I hope you and the family enjoyed it…and that your wife sees sense and dies a mini review. Even a few sentences.

  • Thywillbedone says:

    If only our non-interested partners knew the hours they go into putting together itineraries half as complex ….

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