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Qantas confirms non-stop London to Sydney flights from 2025

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Qantas has announced its ‘Project Sunrise’ non-stop flights from Sydney and Melbourne to Europe with a confirmed order for 12 Airbus A350s.

(This article was previously written speculatively but overnight Qantas confirmed the news – fortunately, virtually everything we wrote has been confirmed. The article below has now been updated.)

Qantas has been discussing ‘Project Sunrise’ since 2017, challenging Airbus and Boeing to propose a solution that would allow such flights. If the pandemic had not intervened then the aircraft would be under construction by now, and in service next year.

Lots of new jets on order for Qantas

Qantas announced the purchase of 12 Airbus A350-1000ULR aircraft today. ULR stands for ‘ultra long range’. These will be built with an additional fuel tank which will allow them to fly fully loaded from Sydney to London.

In addition, Qantas has also placed a large order for single aisle aircraft to renew its domestic and short haul fleet. It has ordered 20 A321XLRs and 20 A220 aircraft to gradually replace the 737 and 717s currently in its fleet, with options to purchase up to 94 more over the coming decade. The first of these will arrive in late 2023.

It is interesting that Qantas has chosen the A321XLR version, which offers the largest range of any narrow body aircraft at up to 4,700nm and certainly more than enough for domestic routes. That would be enough for it to fly from Sydney to Hong Kong, Brisbane to Tokyo or Sydney to Bangkok.

It may be that Qantas has opted for a single aircraft that can do both short and longer routes, in order to increase compatibility across its network. The excellent A220 aircraft can then pick up some of the smaller and thinner domestic routes.

Qantas has been trialling direct flights to Australia since 2018 when it launched its non-stop London to Perth service. This uses a standard Boeing 787-9 aircraft and takes 17 hours to cover the 14,498 km distance. London to Sydney or Melbourne is beyond the scope of existing aircraft.

First flights will operate to New York and London, followed by Paris and Frankfurt. Rio de Janeiro and Cape Town could also welcome the jets according to initial plans.

Qantas’ new A350-1000ULR

The A350-1000ULR aircraft will have the ability to fly for 21 hours. This is enough for the routes under consideration, even after building in flexibility to deal with bad weather diversions and other potential issues en route.

The aircraft will carry 238 passengers in a four class configuration, including First Class, with internal changes to give passengers more chance to walk around during the flight. Over 40% of capacity (and a much higher percentage of floor space) will be dedicated to premium passengers.

Entirely new seating will be developed, and Qantas has already pulled back the curtain on a very impressive First class suite:

Qantas A350 First

and

Qantas A350 First 2

As you can see, each First class seat takes up the wall width – there is no tessellation of other passengers like you would find in most business class cabins. Instead, Qantas has created a suite with a closing door that features both a permanent bed and seat, similar to Singapore’s impressive A380 First class.

Storage appears to be plentiful and the suite features a 32″ in-flight entertainment screen.

The A350-1000ULR solution is believed to be attractive because, whilst the aircraft can handle ultra-long flights, they are equally suitable for shorter intercontinental trips. They will also allow Qantas to bypass international hubs such as Singapore and fly direct – and will eventually replace the hub-to-hub A380 operations.

None of this will come tomorrow, of course. These ultra long-haul flights are due to start in 2025, although whether they start on time is another matter. Fortunately, the A350-1000ULR is just a modified A350 so it is unlikely to be delayed as long as Boeing’s new 777X.

How will British Airways respond?

One question worth considering is whether British Airways will drop flights to Australia in 2025. After many years of losses, and after Virgin Atlantic abandoned the route, British Airways had finally started to make money with its flights to Sydney pre-pandemic.

The strategy had been to use smaller, more fuel efficient aircraft, and effectively abandon the backpacker market to Emirates and Qatar. If the business market moves en masse to the direct Qantas flights, irrespective of cost, British Airways may have no choice but to walk away. Running a base in Singapore to handle the Sydney flights adds extra complexity to BA’s operations.

Comments (78)

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  • Mikeact says:

    Having done their non stop Perth service…in Business…I would definitely sign up for the Sydney run… not Economy though.

  • Andrew J says:

    From the video the bed seems to be angle flat rather than completely horizontal which seems odd for a first class product and remembering the old style of business class seats that were angle flat, it’s quite disturbing feeling like you’re sliding downwards when trying to sleep.

    • Phil says:

      Could that be to compensate for the nose-up attitude during cruise?

    • AJA says:

      You’re right that bed does seem to have an angle to it. Also looks like there is no window just a lighting panel. But otherwise quite impressive.

    • Andrew says:

      That will be to compensate for the nose up attitude inflight – if it’s horizontal on the ground it is slightly angled with your head lower than your feet which can exacerbate acid reflux.

      I find it more comfortable to sleep ‘upside down’ in some carriers’ F products for that reason – although you may get told to switch back if the aircraft doesn’t have an oxygen mask at the foot of the seat (e.g. with a buddy dining seat).

  • Iain says:

    I recently did SYD-DRW-LHR return. Outbound was great – mid afternoon departure so by the time we’d stopped to refuel in Darwin I slept for 9 hrs en route to London.

    The way back was a different question. The day flight really messed with my body clock and I only managed 3 hours of sleep.

    My wife really likes the look of SYD-LHR non-stop. You can plan when you eat, when you try to sleep and when to work/watch movies.

    There’s no doubting that even one stop messes with the jet lag and overall well-being.

  • the_real_a says:

    You must to be insane to fly 20 hours in economy. Surely a day or two’s break walking around and getting back the circulation in the middle is the way to go? And cheaper?

  • Ed says:

    The huge advantage with flying direct is you can switch to the time zone as soon as you board – no being woken up at odd hours to be given food you don’t really want or to have to wander around transit airports.

    I wonder: does this spell the formal end of the Emirates partnership? Surely BA could provide European feed to Qantas to London to fill these planes for those European cities not served directly.

    • marcw says:

      London has already non-stop Australia services by Qantas, and the partnership is still in place.

    • Alex W says:

      This meal time problem is no different on direct flights. I have on many direct flights been woken up by the crew clattering about or sweating buckets as the ovens are heated up to make meals at odd times.

      Then you’re woken up by the Captain congratulating themselves for arriving half an hour early, which means you got even less sleep on you overnight flight! Just let me eat in the lounge at either end and don’t wake me up until we’re on finals! Rant over ;-D

  • Mark says:

    That’s primarily down to competition, though. Factors affecting all airlines will tend to impact pricing across the board and, at the moment, that is driving prices higher. In particular the pricing on BA short haul in recent weeks has been commented on several times.

    • Mark says:

      That was meant to be in reply to Rob at 10:31, re airlines being price takers.

  • TimM says:

    Do you really want to be in a packed cabin of people for 20+ hours who last washed several hours before that and sweated all the way through the airport?

    If they have enough water to flush the loos, they have enough for light showers. It must be relatively easy to collect the condensation from the air-conditioning to re-use. At a pinch, they could take it from the engines too.

    • Callum says:

      TimM – Emirates restrict their showers to first class with only 5 minutes of water, it’s obviously not a feasible suggestion.

      I wouldn’t imagine there’d be an appreciative difference between the smell after 15 hours and the smell after 20 hours, but the objections you’re receiving aren’t because people don’t want showers on board, but because it’s not going to happen. If we’re just imagining what we’d like, then I say we make all economy seats flat beds and charge £1 each way!

      the_real_a – Not if you don’t want a day or two’s break in the Middle East it’s not.

  • qrfan says:

    You need to pick an airline/cabin that has dine on demand. Qatar J for example, or BA/EK F. No such issue then. Middle east to Australia is plenty long enough to adjust.

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