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British Airways CEO: “Many of our customers are rightly fed up”

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If you saw any of our social media feeds over the weekend, you will have seen pictures of the huge queues in Heathrow Terminal 5 on Saturday morning. Even the First Wing had a huge queue at the time our pictures were taken (see bottom image below).

British Airways CEO Sean Doyle later addressed this in a vlog to staff.

It is worth running through the key points – the bottom line is that you should not expect any immediate improvements as we head into Easter.

Heathrow queues

“Many of our customers are rightly fed up”

Unsurprisingly, said Doyle:

“Many of our customers are rightly fed up.  I know you’re also fed up and I’m as frustrated as you are with some of the things we’ve had to deal with.”

The current British Airways issues can be broken down into three areas. If you’re planning to make a BA booking for future travel, especially if it involves a Saturday departure, you should take a view on how long these issues will take to fix before buying your ticket.

Staffing

As we covered extensively at the time, British Airways used the pandemic to try to rid itself of ‘legacy’ employees on ‘above market’ pay scales. This was broadly successful, but led to many thousands of years of combined experience leaving the company.

British Airways is facing similar issues to many other organisations. With ground-based hospitality companies increasing their salaries, and without the anti-social working hours that often come with working for an airline, it isn’t easy to attract people back. We have already seen BA wet leasing aircraft from Iberia Express because it doesn’t have enough crew to operate the new Gatwick short-haul schedule.

Doyle claims that 27,000 people have applied for jobs across the airline since it actively started recruiting in October. Over 5,000 have accepted offers but only 1,200 are actually working due to notice, training and security requirements.

Covid paperwork

Doyle blames confusion over ‘Covid paperwork’ for much of the airport delays and for blockages at call centres.

This is, of course, partly true. I am flying to Amsterdam today and was surprised to find out at the last minute that I need to print off a ‘health declaration’ form. Because there is no requirement to upload this on ba.com before travel I could have been caught out during boarding.

However, BA isn’t helping itself. Courtesy of my friend Andrew, here is a comparison of BA vs easyJet pre-flight messaging when heading to Portugal (the easyJet example is a few weeks old so the exact Portugal information may now be wrong).

easyJet:

“For international flights, the Portuguese Government requires you to have proof of a negative test before you travel (PCR test done within 72 hours or Rapid Antigen test done within 48 hours before departure). Self-tests are not accepted.

Only customers with EU-DCC showing proof of recovery are exempt from the test requirement. For all flights (including domestic flights) you must also complete an online PLF before boarding, regardless of your vaccination status (https://portugalcleanandsafe.pt).

All customers travelling to mainland Portugal must go to Bag Drop to have their documents checked. Please check the latest Government requirements for full details.”

BA (this is the default email, at least on short haul, as of last weekend):

“With just three days before you head to [your destination] with us, we wanted to make sure you’re all set, and ready to fly.

You’ve probably got everything in hand, but with a few days to go its worth double-checking you’ve covered all the essentials, from entry requirements to COVID-19 tests, travel documents to face masks. From 24 hours before departure, use the British Airways app to check-in, then you can travel contact free at the airport. If you think you may have forgotten something, you’ll find all you need to know on ba.com as well as a handy final check list.”

Which passenger is most likely to arrive at the airport with the wrong paperwork?

Heathrow queus

Issues at Terminal 5

Some of the issues at Terminal 5 are outside of BA’s control.

Qatar Airways is still camping out in the terminal, taking up boarding gates and check-in desks. Terminal 4 is due to re-open, but not until July.

You could argue, of course, why British Airways is not moving more flights into Terminal 3. You could also ask why American Airlines has been allowed to move a number of flights from Terminal 3 to Terminal 5 if capacity is so contrained.

In the short term, British Airways is responding by cancelling a wave of flights over the next few weeks. This will do nothing to reduce the number of people at check-in or security, assuming that everyone accepts a rebooking, but it will reduce the pressure on gates.

If you haven’t landed at Heathrow recently, you won’t know that it is now common to wait 30 minutes for a gate to become available. (I was also caught out at Terminal 3 recently on a Finnair flight so this is not exclusively a BA issue.) Once a gate is free, it is pot luck whether any staff are available to attach a jet bridge and/or to remove baggage from the hold.

Is this enough?

It is clear that BA could do more in terms of preparing passengers better for their trip, even if it meant calling everyone individually. Those people who do online check-in will already have cleared the documentation threshold so it wouldn’t require contacting every passenger.

Solving the recruitment issue is, to some extent, outside the control of the airline given legal requirements over training and security clearance. This doesn’t necessarily excuse losing so many employees in the first place.

The issues over Terminal 5 gates will ease when Terminal 4 is back, but problems over baggage handling etc will not go away if more staff cannot be found. The recent pay rise given to Menzies Aviation staff who had threatened strike action will hopefully carry across to other areas of the ‘below the wing’ operation.

As Sean Doyle said in his message:

“That’s all for now, thanks for listening, and thanks for joining us as we begin our climb to be a Better BA. Speak soon.”


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Comments (232)

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  • Thywillbedone says:

    O/T (doesn’t seem to be a daily chat thread today):

    Anyone have familiarity with bidding for upgrades to J on airlines that use Plusgrade (or any other bidding partner)? Wondering if my chances are higher or lower with a family of three bidding versus, say, a solo traveller. I would have thought the larger the group, the lower I might be able to set my bid as the airline could fill three additional seats in one go (assuming enough free seats) but I understand there are other factors they may take into account when evaluating a bid. Thanks!

    • Thegasman says:

      I would think the opposite. They’ll take the highest price they can get so if there’s 4 seats available & 2 people bid higher than you then you’ll miss out as a 3.

      The other thing to consider is that airlines will maintain price discipline so won’t accept 3 low ball offers just to fill a cabin. If they can potentially sell 1 last minute full fare ticket for more than you’re offering for 3 upgrades they’ll pass on the offer. It would logically be easier to get a cheap price for 1 as more chance of leaving a seat or 2 free for a late full fare ticket.

      I’d be looking to offer no less than 10% below a good sale fare if cabin empty/off peak but if it’s a popular date/destination you’ll likely need to pay at least as much as you would have buying J originally & maybe more.

      • Thywillbedone says:

        Thanks. The airline gives a price range for bids (£450 + taxes – £1,100 + taxes). I have bid about 5% higher than minimum bid. Currently showing 13 seats occupied in a 26 seat cabin – flight leaves in 5 days and bidding ends 48 hours beforehand. Flight is only 6.5 hours so not really worth paying much more than bare minimum the airline has set IMO …

    • Lemeng says:

      The trick is to bid for an upgrade (or three in your case) on a flight that you expect to have plenty of empty seats in the J cabin. Our family of three did this a couple of years back from Hong Kong to Sydney with Qantas. I chose the second of the two evening flights, expecting it to sell less well (I could observe this on Expertflyer as the lower J booking classes remained wide open on the later flight but progressively closed on the early flight), and bid a bit above minimum. We got the three upgrades for about £300 each and enjoyed a half empty cabin for our trip.

  • Bill says:

    Doyle sounds completely useless.

    Sending emails and doing blogs and not fixing anything.

    He blatantly doesn’t care

    • dougzz99 says:

      Nonsense. Whether he cares or not can’t he can’t instantly turn things round. Recruitment in the current environment is hard, made even more so for an airline with the security checks, and you can bet they take longer now just like everything else. Everything BA are now is down to Walsh and Cruz. Doyle can only be judged in a couple of years time.

      • Thywillbedone says:

        Doyle has been with BA since 1998. Appointed CEO in October 2020. The man has had time to develop a vision for the business and yet no-one seems to know what it is. At least you knew what Walsh and Cruz stood for.

        • Doug M says:

          Between October 2020 and now he may have had bigger things to deal with, holding him accountable for the mess currently makes no sense to me. By the summer of 2023 the direction of the airline should be clear. BA is a mess, I just don’t think it’s Doyle’s fault.
          I’ve stuck with BA on SH as have Avios and LCY/LHR are convenient, long haul I fly predominantly west and put myself on AA metal. My last two BA business flights were very disappointing, and just can’t be bothered with them any more. AA is far more consistent in my experience.

          • modestpointscollector says:

            Recruitment is only hard because BA dumped all their legacy staff like a stone, and is now wondering why they’re struggling to attract people on what is essentially minimum wage, in an expensive part of the country. While it’s not 100% Doyle’s fault he is in this hole, you’d think he’d have a strategy for getting out of it by now, and he doesn’t appear to have one.

      • Bill says:

        Doyle sacked all the people who knew what they were doing.

        Now left with unmotivated and inept staff

      • Mike says:

        Yes, recruitment is hard in the current environment so maybe BA should have thought about that before letting so many go. In my company we had to furlough some staff but we paid them their full salary, the owners took pay cuts (like me) but we didn’t lose any staff. This put us in a better place to recover afterwards. It was painful and we’ll be paying back a loan for a few years but we had to take a longer term view. BA just took it as an opportunity to dump as many experienced/expensive staff as possible.

    • Jack says:

      He is much better than Cruz for sure changing things takes time and he did not let people go cruz did. He is trying to turn BA around and so far bar some issues ie staffing is doing very well

      • Rob says:

        I’ve spent time chatting with Sean and I’m not convinced. Look at the vlog transcript – he is not being truthful, for example, by blaming T5’s troubles on other airlines using it. The only squatters are Qatar with their handful of daily flights, and BA has deliberately moved more AA flights across to maximise revenue irrespective of the jams caused.

      • Bill says:

        What has he done well? He’s inept and an embarrassment

  • Empers says:

    Does anyone know if Qatar Airways have dedicated checkin desks at T5 currently? Flying Sunday morning 9am. I am just wondering if I will need to join the anticipated huge queue for BA bag drop desks? Security queues are a given, of course.

    • Andrew says:

      Dedicated desks, and not sure if you’re able to use First Wing to checkin if you have status or flying first class – might only be for security and lounge access.

      • TGLoyalty says:

        In my experience flying Iberia from T5 check in is only at their dedicated desks but you can use first wing for security / easy access to lounge.

    • Rob says:

      Own desks at the north end, I believe.

    • Rhys says:

      Qatar has desks in Zone A. You can use the First Wing but you need to check in in Zone A. I did this a couple of weeks ago.

    • Jack says:

      Yes they do it is at Zone A the former BA assistance zone . If eligible you can use fast track north

  • The Hunter says:

    We made a formal complaint at the end of February, after our flight back from Italy was cancelled and we had to book replacements (£1,000). Still nothing back from CS, and can’t call them at any time of the day (automated message just says lines are too busy) – very frustrating!

    • points_worrier says:

      Same here. Comments on FT suggest they will never reply, and you will need to go to CEDR or MCOL. Make sure you claim all costs with receipts, and interest. Dont let them get away with anything!

      • Lady London says:

        They are legally supposed to provide refunds within 7 days of cancellation which I’d take as 7 days of your request if you choose refund amongst your options if airline cancels.

        So if they refuse or if they’re impossible to contact then make sure to state at all points in your claim you also require statutory interest of 8% p.a., pro rata, to be added to all monies (refund, reimbursement, compensation) due to you up to the date monies reach your account.

        Most of us would regard 30 days as a reasonable extra to give them on flight refunds and as it happens I’m pretty sure 30 days is regarded as reasonable for the other things before you have a right to interest.

  • Alan says:

    Well the recruitment issue does sound within BA’s control if they’re not paying enough 😉

    Speaking of staffing – Easyjet at GVA at couple of weeks ago was total chaos. All other airlines checking in OK but any UK Easyjet flights were stuck queueing outside for 2.5h to drop off bags. Complete chaos, staff at checkin said Easyjet hadn’t put on enough staff for the number of flights they’d scheduled to leave within a few minutes of each other. Their Twitter team totally silent on the issue despite lots of photos showing the chaos.

    • memesweeper says:

      BA used furlough to rid themselves of staff, not retain them. This is the result.

      • Mart says:

        It always boils down to staff,our work place decided to trim the fat during covid ,they now can’t get the technical experienced staff back and the rest of us are being offered all sorts to stay and the funny thing is we are still thinking of leaving.

    • Rich says:

      In my experience there always is a long queue at this time of year for EasyJet check in at GVA,, except if you have speedy boarding. It’s a combination of PAX with lots of ski kit, staff who work slowly and randomly dash off and of course, not enough staff for the volume.

      I don’t know what they check or key in but it always amazes me what check in staff have to enter and scroll through.They type and scroll for what seems like an absolute age.

    • A says:

      As someone with Easyjet plus it also really frustrates me when they don’t bother to open the Easyjet plus desk (experience at GVA last week).

    • Luke says:

      There is a certain amount of schadenfreude here.

      The fat cats have always argued that their massive salaries compared to their workforce were necessary because of “market forces”.

      And now the boot is on the other foot!

      • Londonsteve says:

        And they don’t want to pay, Luke. The customers have to suffer the consequences and not the management tiers, they don’t frankly care as long as their salary arrives on their bank account. They’re paid so much that even if they’re sacked after a few years due to incompetence (and given the inevitable contractual golden pay-off), they have earned enough to never have to work for the rest of their life. BA crew meanwhile can go to Wizz Air if they want a pay rise and I’m sure quite a few will. A growing airline with a streamlined operation, a refreshing lack of operational issues and customers whose expectations are tempered by the price paid for the ticket.

  • GGriffiths says:

    Their problems are more symptomatic than just at the airports.

    Tried for 2 days to book an open jaw avios flight: 1st call on hold for 2 hours then cut off, 2nd call for 1.5hours then cut off. Then called this morning so that I connected literally 1 second after they opened at 8am and am fully exepecting to be on hold and get cut off again. Im still on hold 10mins later but genuinely curious how many people could have connected in that half a second before I went through.

    The website both in terms of functionality and reliability is absolute rubbish too. In almost every raspect BA is poor to terrible but given we have limited options (especially in terms of numbers of destinations) we are stuck with them

    • GGriffiths says:

      It gets better. Just got through to be told all their booking systems are down….

    • SP says:

      I was booking a BA holiday the other day, wanted to use an e voucher to cover the deposit, but the only way to do this is to phone. I tried calling, but the system said that due to the high volume of calls they won’t be taking sales calls for the next few weeks. Utterly shambolic and why on earth you can’t apply a voucher to a holiday booking is beyond me.

  • meta says:

    I’m flying Iberia the Saturday after next. Anyone knows if they have dedicated desk? Facing same issues as BA?

    • Pete M says:

      They do have their own desks, generally well staffed and they even have a few of their gate staff. But obviously facing same issues re luggage and gate availability. Depending on what time you land prepare for some insane non-EU queues at MAD T4S if you’re entering Spain. Over 2hrs when we landed two weeks ago.

  • A says:

    If it helps Rob they won’t look at your Dutch Health Declaration Form. I went a few weeks ago and they were not interested in any paperwork at the border. If you can board the flight you will be fine.

    As an aside I was lucky enough to be on the 787-8 on the short hop back. Which then sat on the tarmac at LHR for 45mins when we landed in anticipation of a gate!

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