Denmark added to the quarantine list overnight, with no grace period

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• M says:

  6 Nov6 November 08:27

  There is sizeable conjecture about the nature of the ‘mink’ covid link in this article. There are currently no peer reviewed studies on the topic and certainly no evidence that the ChAdOx vaccine would be ineffective.

  The most likely reason is the significant rise in cases of human community transmission. Whilst I recognise you’re not a science based site, you do have something of a duty to ensure accurate reporting.

  • TGLoyalty says:

    6 Nov6 November 09:01

    I think the line is badly worded. But there is a fear this sort of strain mutation could make a vaccine less effective.

    The cull is very much “just in case be very cautious” rather than based on any real detailed research.

  • Josh says:

    6 Nov6 November 09:09

    “No peer reviewed studies on the topic”

    You know how long it normally takes to publish one of those? If this action hadn’t been taken, a few weeks down the line you’d be asking why they didn’t do it …

    • M says:

      6 Nov6 November 09:32

      This isn’t the first time covid has been found in mink. Similar culls due to covid have occurred in Spain and The Netherlands at least 4-6 months ago. There is no suggestion these outbreaks have affected the prevailing strains in those regions.

      I made no comment on the value of conducting a cull. What I do question is the assertion that this has lead to a change in government policy. That’s quite a leap with no evidence to back it up.

      • Josh says:

        6 Nov6 November 10:24

        But I thought the one of the strains of Covid currently dominant in Europe originated on Spanish farms?

      • callum says:

        6 Nov6 November 10:30

        Which is exactly why this case is different. In Spain, mink caught the virus from humans. In Denmark, it has now been found that humans have caught it from mink. Combine that with the specific strain in the mink being particularly effective at blocking the production of antibodies this has the potential to be a much bigger problem than before.

        Rob is absolutely making an assumption, but it’s not much of a “leap”. It’s a perfectly logical explanation and I assume you have no alternative (which I agree does not make it true, it’s just not really a leap)? I’d also agree that saying it is “immune” is a huge oversimplification if you have a genuine interest in the topic, but for a layman its an adequate description.

      • M says:

        6 Nov6 November 13:13

        Thank you, this is exactly what I was looking for and helps clarify. Maybe the article could link to this.

• Barry cutters says:

  6 Nov6 November 10:21

  I thought being a white British Middle Aged male was difficult in 2020 …………………..But at least I’m not a grey European Mink .

  • Lady London says:

    6 Nov6 November 11:16

    Worse if you’re straight as well 🙂

    • Barry cutters says:

      6 Nov6 November 12:01

      Yes I’ve heard there’s some serious injustices linked to homophobia within the Danish mink community ?

• Tariq says:

  6 Nov6 November 16:15

  Ironic that they’re now concerned about evolution, when the bedwetting measures that we’re currently living through are an affront to Darwinism.

  • Ziggy says:

    6 Nov6 November 20:00

    Congratulations, you win the dumbest comment of the day (Trump aside). Based on your truly idiotic assertion, any sort of “interference”, medical or otherwise, would have to be classified as an “affront to Darwinism”. How would that work for you?

    • Nick_C says:

      6 Nov6 November 22:16

      Sorry Ziggy, but you get my vote for “dumbest comment of the day”.

      Covid-19 kills the old and sick. The strong and healthy survive, and produce a stronger, healthier human race.

      Was iy really right to savagely damage an economy of 60 million people to protect half a million weak and vulnerable, most of whom are economically inactive and will die soon anyway?

      History will be the judge.

      • Ken says:

        6 Nov6 November 23:14

        Yeah , all those weak pensioners dying won’t be passing their genes on now.

        Do you actually know anything about evolution other than trite ‘survival of the fittest’ cliches ?

      • C_runt says:

        7 Nov7 November 19:34

        Nick_C hopefully you’ll be old and weak fairly soon and then we can just callously dispose of you too!

• Amy says:

  6 Nov6 November 17:49

  When will countries be added back onto the corridor list?

  • Anna says:

    6 Nov6 November 17:57

    Presumably when the government is happy with their infection rates, but who knows?!

• Callum says:

  6 Nov6 November 23:19

  I hardly think you (or Tariq) have any right to call anything “dumb” with those horrific arguments…

  Understanding evolution doesn’t mean you have to be a “Darwinist”, nor does “Darwinism” mean “fend for yourself” (humans are social animals – societal assistance has in fact been critical in “guiding” our evolution, the exact opposite to your claim). You’d have to be insanely ignorant to look at the path of human evolution and conclude that “you’re on your own – survival of the fittest” has strengthened the race.

  I hardly see how history will be a judge given there’s nothing objective to compare it to. The selfish like yourselves will continue to insist that it’s better to let “the weak” die off (which, by the way, includes significant non-Covid deaths from people who can’t get treatment anymore – or are you saying we shouldn’t even let those apparently useless and expendable people in the hospitals at all?) because money, money, money. Tariq is either a joke or just flat out evil and probably revels in death, I’m not sure what you could look back on and make you change your mind?

  • TGLoyalty says:

    7 Nov7 November 21:40

    Sorry but I really don’t think everyone who has an opposite view to being “protectionist” is evil or callus.

    What is going on right now in many countries isn’t democratic. There’s no real debates going on in parliament (unamendable bills/acts), in fact there was no questioning for a long time.

    Theres no right to protest peacefully against rights being taken away without threats of £10k fines.

    This isn’t as black and white as deaths vs lockdown as lockdowns aren’t the only option. They’re the sledgehammer like “easy” option because you are fucking up everything else.

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