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This is Part 2 of our discussion on changes to the personal American Express card sign-up bonuses.  The main article is here.

This article was updated on 16th April to reflect changes in some sign-up bonus levels.

Despite these massive changes, the good news is that it is still possible for a couple, starting from scratch with American Express, to earn 130,000 Avios fairly quickly between them.

For most Head for Points readers who are NOT starting from scratch with American Express, you are where you are.  Your activity with American Express over the past 24 months will determine what you can do going forward.  There is nothing you can do to change it.

Even if you cancel all of your existing American Express cards today, you will need to wait 24 months before you can start on the strategies below.

The only exception is if you qualify for an American Express Gold Business or American Express Platinum Business card.  You would be able to apply for those after a gap of just six months from when you cancelled your previous American Express Membership Rewards-earning card.

If you run a small business, there is still flexibility to earn regular sign-up bonuses by focusing on Gold Business and Platinum Business.

If I have not had a personal American Express card before, what should I do?

If you have not held a personal American Express card in the previous two years, you now need to use some strategic thinking.

(Note that MBNA and Lloyds Bank-issued American Express cards do not count in terms of ‘have you had an Amex?’.  We are only discussing cards issued directly by American Express.)

As far as I can work it out, here are three strategies which will allow you to earn more than one bonus on a personal American Express within a 24 month period.

Strategy One

First card:  anything except a British Airways or British Airways Premium Plus – I recommend Preferred Rewards Gold (10,000 Membership Rewards points) but you could also get The Platinum Card (30,000 Membership Rewards points), Starwood Preferred Guest (30,000 Marriott Bonvoy points), Nectar (20,000 Nectar points), American Express Rewards (up to 10,000 Membership Rewards points), Platinum Cashback or Platinum Cashback Everyday

Second card:  the British Airways Premium Plus card (25,000 Avios) – because the only restriction on getting this is if you have held either of the two British Airways American Express cards in the previous 24 months

The reason for the order here is that if you got British Airways Premium Plus first then you would block yourself from all of the cards in the first list, except for The Platinum Card.

Strategy Two

First card: anything except a card earning Membership Rewards points – you are allowed a British Airways American Express, British Airways American Express Premium Plus, Starwood Preferred Guest, Nectar, Platinum Cashback or Platinum Cashback Everyday

Second card:  The Platinum Card (30,000 Membership Rewards points) – because the only restriction on getting this is if you have held another Membership Rewards-earning card (Preferred Rewards Gold, American Express Rewards, Green) in the previous 24 months

The reason for the order here is that if you got The Platinum Card first you would block yourself from the cards in list one (apart from British Airways Premium Plus).

Strategy Three

This is the ONLY way to get three cards with sign-up bonuses quickly:

First card:  Starwood Preferred Guest (30,000 Marriott Bonvoy points) or Nectar (20,000 Nectar points) or Platinum Cashback or Platinum Cashback Everyday

Second and third cards (order unimportant):  The Platinum Card (30,000 Membership Rewards points) – because because the only restriction on getting this is if you have held another Membership Rewards-earning card (Preferred Rewards Gold, American Express Rewards, Green) in the previous 24 months and the British Airways Premium Plus card (25,000 Avios) – because the only restriction on getting this is if you have held either British Airways American Express card in the previous 24 months

The reason for the order here is that as soon as you get The Platinum Card or the British Airways Premium Plus card, you block yourself from all of the bonuses in the first list.

Different strategies apply if you qualify for Gold Business or Platinum Business as they can still be cancelled and reopened every six months.

Strategy Three is the most valuable option

Under the new rules, if you had not previously had a personal American Express card, you can get virtually back-to-back:

30,000 Marriott Bonvoy points from the Starwood American Express or 20,000 Nectar points

plus

30,000 Membership Rewards points from The Platinum Card 

plus

25,000 Avios from the British Airways Premium Plus card

If you converted the 30,000 Marriott Bonvoy points into 10,000 Avios and the 30,000 Membership Rewards points into 30,000 Avios, you would have earned 65,000 Avios fairly quickly from sign-up bonuses.

Don’t forget your partner in all of this

Even if YOU no longer qualify for bonuses in the medium term, think about your partner.  What has he/she had and what does he/she still qualify for?

You can double up on the bonuses above.

Even with the strict new rules, a couple (where neither has had a personal American Express card in the previous 24 months) could earn 130,000 Avios between them fairly quickly if each follows Strategy Three above.


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You qualify for the bonus on these cards even if you have a British Airways American Express card:

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You can see our full directory of all UK cards which earn airline or hotel points here. Here are the best of the other deals currently available.

American Express Preferred Rewards Gold

Your best beginner’s card – 30,000 points, FREE for a year & four airport lounge passes Read our full review

British Airways American Express Premium Plus

30,000 Avios and the famous annual 2-4-1 voucher Read our full review

The Platinum Card from American Express

80,000 bonus points and great travel benefits – for a large fee Read our full review

Virgin Atlantic Reward+ Mastercard

18,000 bonus points and 1.5 points for every £1 you spend Read our full review

Earning miles and points from small business cards

If you are a sole trader or run a small company, you may also want to check out these offers:

American Express Business Platinum

50,000 points when you sign-up and an annual £200 Amex Travel credit Read our full review

American Express Business Gold

20,000 points sign-up bonus and FREE for a year Read our full review

Capital on Tap Pro Visa

10,500 points (=10,500 Avios) plus good benefits Read our full review

Capital on Tap Visa

NO annual fee, NO FX fees and points worth 1 Avios per £1 Read our full review

British Airways American Express Accelerating Business

30,000 Avios sign-up bonus – plus annual bonuses of up to 30,000 Avios Read our full review

Comments (125)

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  • Froggee says:

    I know there have been issues cross-referring cards before but have Amex closed the cross-referral loophole too? Given there was no point waiting six months to apply for my Amex Premium Plus I went to refer myself for it from Platinum and there was the option to apply for other cards as normal but the only options available were the business cards and the Platinum or Gold card.

    I also tried a referral from my SPG Amex to see if that was the same and there was not the option to apply for any other cards.

    Ironically I have never churned with Amex. I had the BA Premium for over a decade but downgraded to the BA Blue a couple of years ago as hadn’t been using the 2for1 courtesy of young children. I finally got round to cancelling it as we have started travelling again so I intended reapplying for the BAPP as the 2for1s could be helpful.

    I have nothing against churners but tend to be a goody-too-shoes with all this sort of stuff. Yet even I feel a bit cheated now!

    • Froggee says:

      And ignore me. Somewhat strangely it is working with the link I got by selecting “email link” but not using the copy link… And yes I tried different browsers etc!

      • Jason says:

        Wait…you can refer yourself? How did I not know this…

        • Alan says:

          LOL not been reading HfP comments section for the past couple of years then? 😉

  • Waddle says:

    I wonder and am hoping that once (if ever) the SPG card turns into a Marriott Bonvoy card Amex will allow one sign-up bonus regardless of what card you currently hold or have held.

  • Vivian says:

    O/T but Amex-related – does the annual subscription to Costco qualify as a “membership” for the eligibility to Costco Amex?

    • Alan says:

      Yes – isn’t that the only way to fulfil the membership requirement? My folks have that card and it has their photo on the back and replaces their Costco membership card.

      • Vivian says:

        I meant taking out the £15 online shopping only annual subscription instead of the £33.60 individual membership – will I be able to take out the Costco Amex and also physically visit the shop to exchange the vouchers?

        • Alan says:

          Ah OK, sorry I didn’t realise such a thing was on offer, Vivian – was only aware of the in-person membership!

  • Fabby says:

    Ah, what to do? I’ve never churned and dipped my toe in the points waters last year with the AMEX Gold which I’ve enjoyed over the last year. Now its coming to an end and I can not justify the cost per annum. I was hopping to grab another AMEX card in the meantime and start churning and reapply for Gold in 6 months which I no longer will be doing.

    My question is, am I better off dropping down to the free version of the card and carry on collecting points as I do now, or transfer out my points to avios etc., cancel and find something in the meantime and pick up a AMEX and its bonus every 2 years (sheds a tear). What else is out there!? Or is there something I’m missing? (I’m not a massive spender but can reach targets over a year, nor do I travel for work but enjoy getting something for normal spending!).

    Any ideas what to do next?

    • Colin JE says:

      Before you cancel your Gold, have you added your nearest and dearest as a supplementary card holder/s. AFAIK you’ll get a few thousand (is it 2k?) MR points per additional cardholder. And is there anyone you can refer to? 9k per sign-up, but make sure they follow Rob’s strategy if they don’t hold any Amex cards.
      As Rob has said in the past, the Virgin Atlantic Premium MasterCard is one of the best earners out there, both for bonus and ongoing points. And you can move your Virgin Miles to quite a few other schemes, though not Avios of course! Other than that there’s the IHG card, though I find their customer service a bit patchy, to put it mildly.

    • John says:

      If the BAPP could be useful to you get it for 1-2 years, then switch back to Gold.

  • Vinz says:

    this simply is a bummer… Will have to think my strategy entirely, as it will be so difficult to make enough points to use on companion vouchers in first class… god it’s bad….

  • Vinz says:

    Rob, do you know if supplementary cards count towards eligibility? They shouldn’t, correct?

    • Rob says:

      They never have so I doubt it has changed.

      • Vinz says:

        fantastic, thanks. so I can still get my partner to get a platinum through my referral. Yes! and I am self-employed too so I guess I qualify for the business card, right?

        • Chas says:

          If you’ve had a personal MR earning card (Plat, Gold etc) you will need to wait 6 months after cancelling them until you can get the sign up bonus for the Corp Plat card (but better than waiting 24 months…)

    • Polly says:

      No, they don’t

  • Anna says:

    I keep reading conflicting comments, will having a BA card (BAPP or free) stop you getting a MR sign up bonus (after 2 years without an MR Amex of course)?

    This could still be a feasible collecting strategy, especially as I retire next week and will be able to be more organised – I may even start a spreadsheet 😂

    • Waddle says:

      Having a BA Amex blocks you from getting MR bonus on all but the Platinum if you haven’t had a MR card for 24 months.

  • Jim says:

    Not good news Rob, do you think there will be changes to the 2-4-1 voucher rules on BA card

    • Rob says:

      Very much doubt it. But I also expect BA to drop Amex as soon as the contract is up – there is no point sticking with them. Capped interchange fees but weak acceptance. More importantly, all BA Amex cardholders need to carry a 2nd card with them which stops BA dominating your wallet.

      I also expect the SPG card is on the way out – as virtually no-one gets this as their first Amex this will be hit hard.

      • Jim says:

        Thanks for your thoughts Rob
        How would that impact if you need to use Amex card when redeeming existing voucher, would BA be able to change that or would you have to maintain one as back up ?

      • Michael says:

        I presume you’d expect BA to come back as a Visa then in the future? When is the contract up just out of interest?

        • Lady London says:

          My money is on someone like Citibank grabbing it.

          We can dream about Chase…

        • Lady London says:

          However it would be better for everyone if BA does renew.
          We don’t want Amex to come under any more pressure, and thus to cut benefits again.

      • Freddy says:

        What would happen with existing cardholders?

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