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Curve Card launched its new subscription plans on Monday – and it is very interesting, to say the least.  It is also a major departure for Curve as it tries to create a sustainable business model.

From today, if you are a Curve customer in the UK, you can use a Curve Mastercard to pay for anything and have it charged to any American Express card you own.

(UPDATE:  American Express withdrew from Curve shortly after this article was published! Unless you want to read this article for a history lesson, I suggest that you click here to read this 2020 article instead which explains how Curve currently operates, without American Express.)

Even merchants who only accept debit cards, such as HMRC, can be used with Curve.  Your tax payments can now go through your Amex card.

When you top-up your Curve card with an Amex, it will go through as a purchase.  This means it will earn you points on your American Express card and count towards any spending target such as the British Airways American Express 2-4-1 voucher.

The only exception is that you are not allowed to use your Curve Card to pay a credit card bill, unless your Curve Card is linked to a debit card.

Importantly, you CANNOT have ATM withdrawals charged to your Amex card.  You can have ATM withdrawals charged to most Visa or Mastercards as a purchase, unless you are a Tesco Bank or NatWest / BoS credit card holder, as long as you remain within Curve’s ‘fair use’ guidelines.

To summarise what Curve will now cost you:

The basic Curve Card remains FREE – in fact Curve will pay you £5 for trying it out if you use my referral code of OQB4J

Curve Black costs £9.99 per month and allows £1,000 per month of free American Express top-ups (0.65% thereafter)

Curve Metal costs £14.99 per month or £150 per year and has unlimited American Express top-ups, a choice of three cool metal cards to choose from and some travel and insurance benefits

What is Curve?

Let’s start by saying what Curve isn’t.

Curve is NOT a bank account.  It is NOT like Revolut, Monzo, N26, Starling or Monese.  If you take out a Curve Card you are NOT getting a ‘current account on a card’.

Curve is simply an intermediary card, a card (a Mastercard) to which you can link all of your existing payment cards, whether they be debit or credit, Visa, Mastercard or American Express.

Via the Curve app you can select which linked card you want to use at any particular time.  Curve transactions are automatically recharged onto that card.  Even if a shop does not accept American Express or even credit cards at all, you can pay with your Curve Mastercard, which is a debit card.

Transactions are processed in two different ways:

If you have a Visa or Mastercard linked to your Curve Card, any transaction you make is automatically recharged to the relevant Visa or Mastercard by Curve.  Your card statement will show as ‘CRV*XXXXXX’ with XXXXXX being the name of the original merchant.

If you have an American Express linked to your Curve Card, you need to use the app to load funds from your Amex card into an e-wallet.  Purchases are then debited against the balance in your e-wallet.  All you will see on your American Express statement is a series of charges (treated as purchases) for funds uploaded to your e-wallet.  You can enable ‘auto top-up’ to automatically fill your e-wallet – rounded up to the nearest £100 – if you do not have enough money in your e-wallet at the point of purchase.

Curve has some other unique features:

Cash withdrawals are charged as a PURCHASE.  Yes, a £200 cash withdrawal on your Curve debit Mastercard will be recharged as a £200 purchase to your linked Visa or Mastercard (not Amex).  This is FREE but there are limits on cash withdrawals based on the Curve Card variant you have.  Note that Tesco Bank and NatWest / BoS do NOT allow credit card holders to make free cash withdrawals via Curve and other banks may follow in time.

Overseas purchases are converted without an FX fee during Monday to Friday (except for free Curve Blue which is capped at £500 per month of free FX transactions with a 2% fee beyond that).  This is a better deal than using a separate free ‘no rewards’ credit card with 0% FX fees because you still earn rewards on the underlying linked card.  On weekends and UK public holidays, a 0.5% fee is added for € or $ transactions and 1.5% for other currencies.

Before we go on ….

Whilst the ability to recharge all of your Visa and Mastercard debit and credit payments to American Express is clearly great, you should do the maths before deciding whether to get a paid Curve Card instead of the free Blue version.

How much money do you spend each month at places which do not accept Amex but do accept Mastercard debit cards?

Council tax is an obvious possibility, along with some utility bills.  The big winners are people who pay HMRC, whether that is for PAYE, self employed income tax and NI or VAT.  Even then, you will need to work around Curve’s daily, weekly and monthly payment limits which get higher as you use the card.  This will require you to break down large tax bills into numerous instalments.

Note that you cannot use Curve to pay a credit card bill.

You also need to think about how much money you spend abroad which could be recharged to an Amex.  If you currently use a 0% FX fees card with no rewards, you will be better off with Curve because of the rewards earned on the card your purchase is recharged to.

If you currently use an Amex card abroad and pay the 3% FX fee, you can now save all of that.  Note that Curve imposes a 0.5% fee for $ and € FX transactions (1.5% for other currencies) on a Saturday and Sunday which could be troublesome, especially if you check out of a hotel on a Saturday with a large bill to pay.

What are the Curve Card limits?

Irrespective of the limits on your underlying cards, Curve has its own daily, monthly and annual limits.  Your limits are increased as Curve begins to ‘trust’ your behaviour.

These are the maximum limits you can get:

Daily spend (inc ATM withdrawals) – £4,500
Daily ATM withdrawal cap – £1,000
Monthly spending limit (on a rolling 30 day basis) – £120,000
Annual spending limit – £1,400,000

This should cover even the highest tax bills.  As I said, though, you have no chance of being given a limit anywhere close to this on Day 1.  The limit you get is not linked to the type of Curve Card you use.

What are the three different types of Curve Card?

In this part of the article I will review the new Curve Metal product, as this is the one which is the most striking and has the most benefits.

Part 2 of this article covers Curve Black and the free Curve Blue.

What are the features of Curve Metal?

The Curve website compares the free different types of Curve Card.

Fee: £14.99 per month, or £150 annually (if you pay monthly and cancel or downgrade within six months, a £50 cancellation fee will apply)

Card:  Funky 18g brushed metal card in red, blue or rose gold.  I have been trialling the blue one and it is a bit boring to be honest so I’d recommend one of the others.

Availability:  UK residents only

Amex usage cap:  None and no fees

Foreign exchange fees:  Unlimited transactions with no fee (0.5% fee $ or € and 1.5% fee for other currencies applies to transactions made on a Saturday or Sunday)

ATM withdrawals:  Overseas: £600 per month for free, 2% thereafter (can only be charged to a Visa or Mastercard) / UK: 10 free withdrawals per month (max £200 per day, fair use policy applies), 50p fee thereafter

These are the key benefits.  There are other benefits which I do not value highly but which some readers may find useful:

Travel insurance underwritten by AXA  (this looks OK with an age limit of 70, although the rules are stricter than many policies in terms of, for example, sports you may not play on holiday)

Gadget insurance (maximum value £800 with a £50 excess)

Car rental CDW waiver coverage  (I have this via Amex Platinum but if you do hire cars and don’t have a standalone policy this will be worth something to you – the car must be worth under £25,000 however)

Airport lounge access via LoungeKey (this is NOT free access, you will need to pay a fee of around £15 per visit)

1% cashback from six premium retailers for the first 90 days of membership.  This is on top of the rewards you will earn from your underlying card.

This card has the possibility to be VERY attractive to Head for Points readers.  Let’s look at a couple of key areas:

Your ATM withdrawals (10 per month in the UK for free, £600-worth per month in foreign currency) will earn you miles and points on any underlying Visa or Mastercard.  This will also count towards spend-based bonuses on those cards.  This can offset a lot of the annual fee.

You can charge all of your foreign spending to a miles or points earning card – including an Amex – whilst paying 0% FX fees, which should lead to a sharp increase in your points earning (0.5% fee $ or € and 1.5% fee for other currencies applies to transactions made on a Saturday or Sunday)

You can charge some day-to-day debit card spending to Curve and turn it into spend which earns miles, points and ‘spend-related target bonuses’

If I can get a high enough limit on my Curve Card, for example, I will able to charge my six figure PAYE, VAT and personal tax bills to my BAPP American Express card.  This will be a major boost to my Avios earning.  It also opens up the possibility of hitting spend targets such as the £37,500 of spend required on the IHG Rewards Club Premium Mastercard to be given top tier Spire Elite status.

Is Curve Metal worth £2.50 to £5 per month more than Curve Black?

That’s a good question.  If you pre-pay for Curve Metal at £150, the difference in cost is only £30 per year or £2.50 per month.  For your extra £2.50, you get a snazzy metal card plus:

  • Unlimited Amex usage (Curve Black is capped at £1000 per month for free and charges 0.65% afterwards)
  • CDW car rental insurance (not part of Black)
  • £600 vs £400 of free overseas ATM withdrawals (this in itself is worth £1 or so in extra Visa or Mastercard rewards)
  • Travel insurance includes lost baggage and personal belongings (Curve Black does not)
  • No ability to pay £15 per visit for LoungeKey airport lounge access

On this basis, I think Curve Metal justifies the small extra fee.  However, for many HfP readers the free Curve Blue card will be enough as I show in Part 2.

In Part 2 ….

In my second article today I will review Curve Black and the free Curve Blue.  Click here to read it.

How to apply for your Curve Card (free if you choose Blue)

Curve will pay you £10 for trying it out if you use our link.


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Comments (576)

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  • Doug M says:

    With the rental car insurance is this just CDW? i.e. no insurance for the damage you might do to other cars in an accident, usually referred to as SLI in USA where I tend to rent. In USA I wouldn’t feel comfortable with this, SUVs I rent tend to be $40K min, and often more like $50-60K, pretty litigious place to skimp on insurance.
    I think the existing Blue card I have is fine, albeit limited, just don’t have the spend in places that don’t take Amex to make it worthwhile.

  • Paul says:

    Am I missing something here in terms of value:

    Family Holiday Insurance – approx £50 per year
    Car Hire Excess Insurance – approx £50 per year
    Gadget Insurance – approx £50 per year

    Doesn’t the Curve metal pay for itself (providing you need all the above) even without considering the additional benefits of linking to Amex Card.

    Additionally, I transfer money into my ratesetter account each month with curve linked to mastercard and also pay off Amex bill and have no problems whatsoever.

    • Rob says:

      Good travel insurance is £200 per year. This policy is, I agree, worth about £50 but then the exclusions are tough. No elephant riding, no jet skiing, no archery (!). Winter sports are not covered. Any trip where you are going with the primary intention to do sport (eg a ski trip) is excluded. And this is only the sports section ….

      The car hire excess is fine if you only get small cheap cars. The gadget insurance has value I agree although household insurance may cover that.

      • AndyK says:

        Checking T&C for UK and both skiing and snowboarding on piste are covered which is standard winter sports cover.

        • ChrisD says:

          Yes it says they are covered but as Rob says, not if the primary or main purpose of the trip is to do that activity. Golfing holidays is an exception and explicitly called out but not skiing holidays. I’ve been through the AXA policy and compared it with what I have already and I’ve concluded it’s not very good cover.

      • ChrisD says:

        Car hire excess insurance only covers cars with a value less than 35K Euros. So anything decent, especially 4×4 when skiing, won’t be covered.

      • Anna says:

        Jet skis have a horribly high accident rate, I can’t imagine riding an elephant is nearly as dangerous!

        • Rob says:

          I was nearly killed once riding an elephant in Chiang Rai, when we went through a river and elephant decided that it was a bit hot and thought it was a good idea to lie down and roll over. Luckily I was thrown clear as it rolled onto its back.

  • Helen says:

    Great news. Are Corporate Amex cards also included now? I have a £27k tax bill to pay by end of Feb. I was thinking of signing up for the Corporate Gold or Platinum and then i can meet the bonus immediately – but of course this is dependent on if they accept the Corporate Amex yet with Curve. Do you know? Thanks

    • George says:

      My business Amex was accepted as a card and for a top-up. The corporate cards are a whole different ball game and take a very long time to setup vs the business ones which you can apply for online.

      • Helen says:

        Thanks George. I didn’t realise there was a difference. I have been a long time BAPP personal AMEX card user, but given i have to pay HMRC £27k from my company, I have applied for a Platinum charge card in my company name. I have just checked and it is an American Express Platinum Business Charge Card. So I guess that should work ok then? Hope it comes fast so i can start drip feeding the payments to HMRC – as my Curve limits are not that big yet.

        • Crafty says:

          It would be better to pay from your personal Amex card(s) and have the business reimburse you.

  • Helen says:

    Can you link more than one Amex card to your Curve account now? During the beta I read that it could only support one Amex card.

    • Mark2 says:

      I have just added a second card, apparently with its own wallet

    • Alan says:

      Yes you can – I believe even during beta you could add more than one (although I didn’t try), it was just the backend systems couldn’t differentiate the cards so could have been an issue if trying to get balance refunded.

  • Ross says:

    In theory, could I top up my Amex Curve with £1000, switch my Curve to my BarclayCard Visa, pay off my Amex directly with Curve Visa (which I already do), switch my Curve back to my Curve Amex and then pay of my BarclayCard Visa with my Curve Amex, essentially pushing £1000 round the system, earning both Membership Rewards points with Amex and Hilton Honors points with BarclayCard in an indefinite cycle?

    I’m aware that it says you cannot pay a credit card off with Curve, but I am able to pay my Amex with Curve with no issues.

    • Lumma says:

      I think these are the sort of things that you shouldn’t discuss on a public forum if you are able to do them

      • Alan says:

        Agreed. If it works for you great, but keep it to yourself and be aware they might shut you down…

    • Vinz says:

      You can’t do that. I was told off for paying off my credit card bills with another credit card through curve. It’s against their fair usage policy so stop immediately or they may block /cancel your account.

    • Andrew L says:

      You won’t be able to do this for much longer and it will be all your doing by your in ability to keep your big mouth shut when you find a loophole!!

    • BrianDT says:

      Slowly please, I’ve loaded £1000 into my Amex wallet. I would normally pay this off on line at statement month end, but I can’t see how to pay this off in the App using another stored card ? Or are you saying just use Curve when paying my on line Amex bill ?

  • Discount Mike says:

    So to pay your company VAT bill, are people opening a curve account in their personal name and then linking their company’s Amex? Or do you have to be a sole trader?

    • Rob says:

      You can use personal credit cards for your companies expenses. Any nonsense your accountant tells you is just that. For an easy life you want no outstanding money due from the company to you on your accounting year end date though.

  • Mark says:

    I’m rapidly approaching my £50k annual spend limit. Anyone know if this will increase automatically, or can it be requested?
    Rob suggests max limit can be £1.4m

    • Alan says:

      It’s not automatic, you’d have to request but clicking the ‘increase my limits’ button and contacting support.

  • Roger says:

    Genuine question

    Anyone who is at their annual limit and may be another 6 months plus before the limit resets, is there any point in upgrading to curve metal now in the hope that this limit will increase?

    • Lev441 says:

      I’ve emailed this exact question when they refused to increase my limit last week. They said I needed to create spend history based on day-to-day spend. However I’m at the limit! Asked again today as a) thinking of upgrading and b) want to put more spend through it but aren’t able to do so!

      • stuart says:

        In mine (and two colleagues) experience, curve metal resets the spend history. Others here report nt to have had this, so YMMV

        • Roger says:

          I have just upgraded to Metal, still same amount left on my balance.
          Trouble is, one cannot call Curve CS (well you can but is of no use!) and sort out such things as a priority.

    • Alan says:

      The limits aren’t linked to card type so I would only do it if you wanted Curve Metal for the benefits, not in the hope of a limits increase. Personally I wouldn’t be paying for unlimited Amex top-ups (the main benefit) if I didn’t have any spend limit left to use them! Much better to email support to seek limits increase, of course reasonable to mention you were thinking about getting Metal but stopped as no limits to support usage.

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