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Valuing my points – what I REALLY got over my last year of redemptions

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Valuing miles and points is a thankless task.  I wrote this long piece on valuing Avios points but all it does is show you how complex it can be.  I also tend to throw out valuations of hotel points in articles – 0.4p-0.5p for IHG, 1.5p for Starwood, 0.5p for Marriott, 1p for Hyatt, 0.33p for Hilton, 0.5p for Club Carlson – without justification.

Last October I did a similar article on what I had done during 2016.  Since all of my travel for 2017 is now done or booked, I thought it was a good time to take another look.

For the last four years or so I have been tracking most of my redemptions.  I thought it would be interesting to share some of my findings.

Avios

I have spent 1.8m Avios points in 2017 although this includes 144,000 for next year and some tickets which were technically booked for Head for Points purposes rather than my own leisure travel.

Whilst I don’t adjust for it in these figures, redeeming for Head for Points purposes is not actually very smart.  If I had paid cash, it would have been a tax deductible business expense so £1 of cost only becomes 60p out of my pocket.  Sometimes I just can’t bear to pay cash unnecessarily, however.

The largest redemption was 380,000 Avios for our Asia holiday at Easter.  That comprised 4 x Club World down to Hong Kong, 4 x First Class back from Beijing and the use of two 2-4-1 vouchers.  That got me 2.0p per Avios, adjusting for taxes, assuming that I would have had to pay £10,000 for four ex-UK tickets for cash over peak Easter dates.

That was also my most valuable redemption of the year.  It even beat the Salzburg tickets we had to book using ‘double Avios’ (a Gold member perk) to go skiing over February half-term, at a time when cash tickets were £600 each.

The worst value redemption I did was actually the flight back from Palma last month, deliberately routing via Madrid, but that was done primarily to allow me to review the aircraft for the site.  That cost me 21,750 Avios one-way in business class.

The rest is a mix of good value short-haul flights, partly personal and partly for HfP, internal flights in Asia and four one-way Club World Dubai flights for later this month.  Short-haul flights were valued at the lower of what I would have paid, the cash price on the day or the economy price plus assumed upgrade cost.

Based on my conservative valuations of flight values, I averaged 1.3p per point across the 1.8m Avios.  This is same valuation I achieved in 2016 but that isn’t really a coincidence, since I did a similar mix of short and long-haul redemptions and used the same ‘cash alternative’ values.

Virgin Flying Club

I did two Virgin Atlantic redemptions this year.

One was a one-way Upper Class flight from New York to London for 40,000 points plus taxes.  I value that at a notional £875 which meant 1.3p per point.

(For the record, if you can remember my review of that flight, Virgin still refuses to explain why I was moved from the service I booked to a later flight with second-rate seating, or why I was not informed of the change – although they claim their system should have triggered an email at the point I was transferred.  Other HFP readers have suffered the same fate.)

I also moved 30,000 points to IHG Rewards Club to trigger my Spire Elite renewal and, with it, a further 25,000 IHG Reward Club bonus points.  Getting 55,000 IHG points worth 0.4p each means a value of 0.73p per Virgin mile.  This is artificially low, however, as renewing Spire also means I earn more bonus points on all IHG cash stays in 2018 plus should receive better upgrades.

Starwood Preferred Guest

I tend to quote 1.5p per point.  However, I did incredibly well this year and achieved 3.0p per point.

This was due to two exceptionally good redemptions, both achieved by transferring Starwood points to Marriott Rewards.  We did two nights x two rooms at The Ritz-Carlton Kyoto over Easter and we have three nights in a villa at The Ritz-Carlton desert resort in Ras Al-Khaimah next week.

I actually understate the value of the Kyoto redemption. The rooms we booked on points were selling for £1,000 per room per night as it was Easter.  We would never have paid that in reality, so I have assumed we only ‘saved’ £500 – which would have got us a 3-star in that particular, cherry blossom, Easter week.

I will discuss the desert resort in Ras when I get back.  Note that the current astonishingly low rate of 40,000 Marriott Rewards points per night (13,333 Starwood points) will go up sharply on 1st November.  The cash rate next week is over £800 per night – October half term is super-peak season in the Middle East.

I also redeemed 15,000 SPG points for two tickets in the SPG Suite to see Celine Dion at the O2, to keep my wife happy 🙂  I valued that at £200 (£200 for my wife’s box seat and £0 for mine!).

Tesco Clubcard

I have also been tracking my Tesco Clubcard redemptions.  As I wrote three years ago, the bulk of my points pay our quarterly Safestore storage bill.  I can’t justify taking Avios when Safestore give me 300% of the face value.

Because most of my Tesco redemptions this year were for Safestore vouchers, I got almost exactly 3p per Clubcard point.

Safestore is no longer a Clubcard partner.  However, Uber recently signed up and also gives exactly 3p per Clubcard point of value.  Given our regular use of Uber, I can’t justify using Tesco points for Avios when I can get 3p per Clubcard point elsewhere.

American Express Membership Rewards

I usually get out-size value for my American Express points but this is due to a quirk which few people can use.  Redeeming at peak times for Jumeirah beach hotels in Dubai sees me getting around 3p per Membership Rewards points.

Jumeirah Sirius is no longer a UK American Express partner but it is a partner with the International $ Card.  As I also have an International $ card, I can move my UK Amex points to the $ card Membership Rewards scheme, get a bonus based on the current exchange rate and redeem from there.  I was lucky enough to move a lot of points to the $ card when the exchange rate was £1 = $1.60 compared to the current $1.30.

However, we didn’t do that this year.  Instead, my redemptions were mainly for Emirates Skywards miles (to get us home from Dubai later this month), Hilton Honors points and Eurostar Frequent Traveller.

I averaged about 1.2p for the points I transferred.

Other hotel programmes

I am still happy with my quoted range of 0.4p – 0.5p per IHG point valuation.  That said, the lure of Accelerate bonus points and the fact that we have two Ambassador 2-4-1 vouchers between me and my wife to spend each year means that we don’t redeem as often as we could.

I have done a lot of Hilton Honors redemptions this year.   Whilst I generally quote a value of 0.33p per Hilton point, we actually managed 0.5p overall on completed stays to date.  This was due to stays in several places which are disproportionately expensive – Tokyo during cherry blossom season, Beijing and the all-suite Conrad New York.  A future booking for Bath on a pre-Christmas weekend also worked out at 0.5p.

An upcoming Hilton stay in Bournemouth is only getting the usual 0.33p per point, but I have booked that as a favour for a group of friends (we have 5 rooms in total).  A booking at the Hilton Boston Logan Airport also came out at 0.3p, so I don’t see any need to increase my value of Hilton points. I hope to do a review of both the new Hampton and new Hilton in Bournemouth.  Does the UK finally have a high quality seaside hotel bookable on points?

The only Club Carlson redemption I did was the Park Inn Southend On Sea, reviewed here, which was surprisingly good.  I got 0.43p per point, better than the standard 0.33p per point I usually quote for Carlson.

Other airline programmes

My Emirates flights back from Dubai later this month were technically very poor value due to the high taxes added on.  However, in reality, I doubt I could have actually got cash flights for my notional value given it is half term.  The Qatar Airways blockade means that the alternative Avios route home, via Doha, is now blocked.

I never worked out a value for my Lufthansa First Class flight to New York.  It’s something you do because it is a great experience, not because you want to maximise your pence per mile.

Conclusion

I am not trying to ‘prove’ anything with this article, except perhaps to show that the valuations I quote are based on experience and not plucked out of the air.

If you have fewer points than me then you should be able to beat my returns because you are in a position to hold out for the best deal. I tend to use points whenever I can, within reason, if it saves me using cash.  Your value per Avios point will also be a lot higher than mine if you always redeem with a BA Amex 2-4-1 voucher or only ever use points to upgrade.


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There are two official British Airways American Express cards with attractive sign-up bonuses:

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You can also get generous sign-up bonuses by applying for American Express cards which earn Membership Rewards points. These points convert at 1:1 into Avios.

American Express Preferred Rewards Gold

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Click here to read our detailed summary of all UK credit cards which earn Avios. This includes both personal and small business cards.

Comments (135)

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  • Marc says:

    An interesting point… theoretically you’re able to buy Avios points at around 1-1.2 pence, mainly through Groupon/IbPlus route. They’ve been already 5 offers this year, and taken a Conservative value of 100.000 Avios purchase per person/offer… a family of 4 could have earned already 2M Avios points.
    Consequently, I think we should cap the value of 1 Avios point around 1-1.2 pence.
    I might be wrong, but many times I see Rob saying… you can’t value IHG points more than X, that’s the price you pay when buying points on a 100% bonus or that points+money way of buying points.

    • Rob says:

      Fair point. We have seen so many opportunities this year to buy at 1p to 1.2p that you could argue it is the ‘new normal’ and so Avios values should be capped at that.

      • the real harry1 says:

        well, it’s not really ‘capping’, is it?

        it’s ‘increasing to’ from what most of us used to cost/ value Avios at, ie 0.6p-1p (regardless of our actual cost)

        in other words, we would see a redemption giving an Avios alternative to cash of worse than 0.6p-1p as a poor use of Avios

        I think Marc is making a valid point but muddying [in literal terms] cost & value

        I buy @ 1p-1.2p – my cost is capped at 1p-1.2p

        I redeem @ 1.5p – my value is 1.5p

        HFP article is mainly about value obtained

    • Alex W says:

      Touché! Well said!

  • graham says:

    ot – I went for the 150 pounds a year tesco card and have almost spent 5000 pounds. I find now that you don’t get the bonus until up to 45 days after the end of the membership year.Does this mean I would have to renew the card (non cancellable pro rata) and pay 150 pounds just to get the bonus i earned in the previous year?

    • Liz says:

      My Tesco card is up for renewal on 15/10 so I am in the same boat as you. I will phone them next Monday to find out what is supposed to happen and report back. It better not take 45 days.

    • Genghis says:

      FOS would likely take a dim view of not receiving a bonus based on past performance for not paying a future fee. I’d contact Tesco in the first instance. Then I’d not spend on the card in the new year

  • Andre says:

    Hi Rob, I think I requested this before, but it would be extremely valuable for your readers if you shared the template of the spreadsheet you use to track all this and maybe a short post explaining how to use it.
    So that your readers (me included) can keep track of the redemptions and value they bring to them.

  • ankomonkey says:

    I managed to complete one of the Accor Le Club surveys and this morning got an e-mail saying I’d earned 500 Le Club points. I also got an e-mail saying I’d successfully cancelled my autoconvert from Le Club to Iberia. I haven’t touched my Le Club account for months and definitely haven’t changed anything that might cancel the autoconvert that I’ve had in place for many years.

    So, now I’ve got 500 Le Club points with minimal chance of reaching 2000 for the 40euro discount, does anyone know if the Iberia trick works for other airline partners? Although the points value is lower, I need a few Turkish Airlines miles for a redemption and the price to buy is really high, so may try to move to there using the Iberia method. Does anyone have experience of autoconverting low amounts to schemes other than Iberia?

    • the real harry1 says:

      somebody switched on Accor—>IB auto-convert about 2-3 weeks ago, so why not give it another go?

  • Barry cutters says:

    Rob.
    you have been paying for this storage for years. Time to clear out the garage and use the points to eat out at pizza express/zizi/prezzo every night for a year?

    • Rob says:

      This is London, there is no garage! Alternative would be a bigger house which would be substantially more than £500 of Tesco vouchers every year 🙂

    • Lady London says:

      That;s why I have storage. It’s a lot cheaper than buying or renting a bigger place or a place with a garage in London. Plus renting storage is totally flexible now.

  • Tom says:

    As a novice I’m only on the Avios points collection route at the moment, so I’m learning all the time in terms of valuations. Articles like this certainly help, thanks Rob!

  • Chris Shaw says:

    Rob,
    As a relatively new collector, I have managed to collect circa 400,000 Avios / Amex points, plus 2 x 2-4-1 2019 BA vouchers, over the last 2-3 years, and I am now looking for our first redemption. I live in Edinburgh & we are a family of 4.

    My difficulty is getting inspiration on possible redemptions, and learning how to get 4 business class seats, without being BA Gold. Do you think you could run a Thread or section on the site whereby people could post their redemptions, as examples for other people to learn from, or post additional articles such as the recent one about getting a better deal to Australia & New Zealand using the multi carrier partner pricing chart, which I found very interesting, for different destinations ie Asia.
    Thanks
    Chris

    The article recently on partner airlines

    • Anna says:

      You should still be able to get connecting flights from Edinburgh for no extra avios, but there will be quite a hefty fee for a through booking (which means you don’t have to collect and re-check your luggage in London). Most redemption availability is from London. There are two main strategies for getting CE or CW redemptions. The first is to grab the two seats which become available at T-355, and hope that more are released at a later date (not guaranteed). The second is to be more flexible with your destination and use the BA availability search tool to look for routes where there are 4 or more seats available. These tend to be on routes where there are several flights each day and a lot of competition from other airlines. New York is a classic example, and makes a great stop in itself or as an add on to another destination. You don’t have to fly in and out of the same airport, as long as the distance between the two is less than the length of your first flight. Good luck!

      • Anna says:

        Also, I may be wrong but I think your avios may expire after 3 years without any movement so you may need to get your booking made soon!

        • Anna says:

          Sorry, re-read your post, probably some of your points will have been collected more recently so you don’t need to worry about that.

        • Alan says:

          Although extremely easy to earn one Avios point, so that shouldn’t be a driver in of itself. Yes, extra fee from Edinburgh but generally not as much as it first appears when on the booking system (reduces on last page of process).

      • Genghis says:

        … as long as the distance between the two is less than the length of both flights

        • Stu N says:

          If you are searching for availability it is massively easier to look from London – XXX as well, the redemption search from Edinburgh is pretty tortuous. Once you find something you like you can then home in on the exact flights.

          We have never had problems finding workable availability from Edinburgh as there are so many flights a day. The one time we thought we were looking at a very long layover in Heathrow, the booking agent was able to get us onto a flight that didn’t have Reward availability showing online, apparently they can force things for connecting flights sometimes.

    • Rob says:

      The BA Redemption Finder website, run by reader Tim, is a very easy way to see how and where you can get four seats in CW. It is worth having a play with that – if you can never see days with 4 seats, you can safely assume you’re wasting your time. If there are quite a few, you can assume that the seats will appear and it is just a case of keeping your eye on availability and being flexible.

      Our Asia Easter trip, for example, was meant to be Japan only. Avios seats to Tokyo are hard to get at peak season, however, so it ended up being a three City tour of Hong Kong, on to Japan, on to Beijing as redemptions into HK and out of China were not a problem even booking four months before departure.

    • david says:

      One other tip, if you are a family of three and live in Edinburgh – hire a car and start your trip in Inverness – the 160 mile drive will be incredibly profitable in terms of tax savings. Our forthcoming USA F trip is £300 cheaper, based on two of us, compared with starting in GLA. And book a one-way hire car too – you can fly back to EDI without any penalty…

    • david says:

      One other tip, if you are a family of four and live in Edinburgh – hire a car and start your trip in Inverness – the 160 mile drive will be incredibly profitable in terms of tax savings. Our forthcoming USA F trip is £300 cheaper, based on two of us, compared with starting in GLA. And book a one-way hire car too – you can fly back to EDI without any penalty…

    • Yuff says:

      Chris,

      Don’t restrict yourself, to just CW, look at F as well 😉

      Yuff

    • Lady London says:

      There are threads on Flyertalk where people have posted redemptions so that others can learn what’s possible.

      • Chris says:

        Thanks All, Never dreamed that 4 of us could fly F to Asia.
        That’s my mission now
        Thanks for the tip about the redemption finder.

        Chris
        .

    • Alan says:

      BA Gold only improves redemption availability in economy (or I guess opens up the option of a Gold Priority Rewards), no difference in Club. East Coast USA generally one of the easiest for longhaul Club availability.

  • Richard G says:

    Out of interest, how did the 4 x Business class tickets out / 4 x First class tickets in work on the 2-4-1 vouchers? I was unaware that you could book two different classes for in / out.

    • Genghis says:

      So as long as two tickets are available in the same class to use the 241 it’s fine. Ie. F out, J back. Seemingly can’t book F out and Y back online but I presume bookable on the phone?

    • Anna says:

      The problem I’ve found is that the booking system will only show 3 classes, e.g WT, WTP, CW or WTP, CW, First. I don’t know why there’s no function to move between the classes so you can see all four. So online you can book CW out and WT back, but not First out and WT back.

      • Lev441 says:

        Use the avios.com website and you see all four classes ( for BA)

        • Anna says:

          Can’t use the 2 4 1 voucher there though!

        • Lev441 says:

          @anna – good for searching for availability for all four classes though…

        • Tom says:

          My understanding is BAEC and Avios.com availability are entirely separate, and so not indicative of availability either way.

          Search: ‘BA redemption finder’ and you’ll find a good BA redemption availability site linked in a relatively recent HFP article.

      • mark2 says:

        Yes, that is very annoying. They have just updated the website (graphics at least) but have kept the ‘only three classes’ feature!

        • Lawro says:

          Anyone else finding searching for availability with new layout really awful?

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