Hilton scrapping ‘points and fixed miles’ earning from January

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• Luke says:

  6 Nov6 November 07:30

  Sharjah, UAE Hilton is exempt for the 1000 bonus Avios I’ve learned the hard way.

• Andrew (@andrewseftel) says:

  6 Nov6 November 07:35

  I think VS will stay at 2pts/$, but this is still a real pain.

  Hopefully Marriott will bring back status challenges – I might defect if they did.

• Manuel says:

  6 Nov6 November 07:48

  Is the 1000 avios promo for BA over?

• What's the Point says:

  6 Nov6 November 08:29

  I am hoping that the Hilton will continue to do bonus airline points for certain stays in 2014, which you have to opt into to receive. This will benefit the loyal customer, rather than rewarding everyone with 500-1,000 airlines per stay.
  As for collecting HH points to use on reward stays, the top end hotels are just not worth collecting for. I average around 2,000 HH points per night, so effectively would need 40+ nights for just one night at their top tier hotels…..ridiculous!

  • Rob says:

    6 Nov6 November 10:05

    Even the hotels dislike this. The owner of a couple of Hiltons in New York recently blamed falling profits on a drop in occupancy caused by the collapse of HH reward bookings at his property.

    • mrtibbs1999 says:

      6 Nov6 November 16:29

      I read that and did some further digging. Very insightful regarding the economics of the holiday reward points system. The idea that points collectors have higher in property spends etc on the items that they make massive margin on had never occurred to me. I imagined everyone was a cheapskate like myself 😛

      • M says:

        6 Nov6 November 17:00

        You might have a link – source?

• pazza2000 says:

  6 Nov6 November 10:36

  Sorry to see the end of this, although I agree it was super generous at times. Back in January I earned 5k VS miles on a £47 night. On a separate note, does anyone know how long it usually takes for IB miles to post? It’s been 2+ weeks since my base miles posted from a stay, although no sign of the IB miles I had my account set to receive. Seems a little longer than I’ve waited for BA/VS in the past.

  • signol says:

    6 Nov6 November 11:26

    Last time took 3 weeks for me. I’m also waiting on another IB Avios stay posting, from 2 1/2 weeks ago.

  • Volker says:

    6 Nov6 November 11:30

    Did five Hilton stays in September, and almost every time the Avios arrived in my IB account within a few days. Regarding the last stay though it took over a week. 3,750 Avios + HH points… another 2 stays in December and that’ll be the end of this nice earning option.

• Roger says:

  6 Nov6 November 10:55

  Iberia+ fixed miles currently earns 750 per stay BUT the ‘enhancement’ will be to 1 Avios per $10, not 1/$1 as with BA.

  I imagine this will be regularised in due course, but I will be changing from Iberia+ to Virgin Flying Club for 2 VS miles per $.

• Volker says:

  6 Nov6 November 12:02

  2013 has been a bad year in terms of points devaluation, and 2014 obviously won’t be much different. (Against the backdrop of these recent developments, I am about to give up hope of another half-decent Tesco CC – Avios conversion bonus, too.)
  Always look on the bright side: I will not have to move from one Hilton to another neighbouring one anymore just to earn these extra Avios (well, maybe in order to maintain gold status…), but from now on I will enjoy spending a few nights in the same room lol
  In the future, I will be double-dipping HH points as I am quite happy with their redemption options. There are still some decent points + cash redemptions available, and in the past (before achieving gold), I sometimes got a very pleasant upgrade for as little as 800 points.
  For the time being, Hilton will remain my no. 1 choice; you can usually easily avoid the less nice properties by reading reviews prior to travelling, and I have been very satisfied with the brand so far.

• gnarlyoldgoatdude says:

  6 Nov6 November 15:41

  By the end of the year I would have earned about 55k Virgin miles from about 30 Hilton Stays. Not bad considering that I’ve never set foot on a VS plane. Instead of earning 1000-6000 miles per stay, I’ll be down to about 230. It’s starting to make IHG’s airline earning rate look generous.

  • Volker says:

    6 Nov6 November 16:52

    Hmmm, that seems a little bit of an exaggeration 😀 I think from now on we should avoid the word “generous” when talking about hotel loyalty programs…

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